the NY botanical gardens are now registering for the fall/winter classes if anyone is interested. i have the text book here, ful of all the classes and start dates. it says its easily accessible from NY/NJ/CT... right near the GWB. they have weed identification and treatment commercial turf commercial turf advanced all stages of landscape design soil classes even a start a small business landscape class so many more.... here is a link to their site for additional info if you're interested. http://www.nybg.org/ after you click on the link..... ckick the "education" link on top of page, then click "fall/winter call schedules"