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ok, tell what kind of work u like better. Commercial or residential??? and WHY???
Commercial, way less stops, more time working and less time travelling. Plus it seems like residential customers have nothing better to do than look out the window and wait for you to get there. I'm down to 5 res. and as far as I'm concerned it is still 5 to many. It is also easier to send a new driver to a parking lot than explain how to get to Mrs Jones's house in the dark when you cant see her address. I find commercials are less tedious and more profitable, plus they get service at minimal amounts of snow.
What lawnboy said,+ no new guy problems you have with residentials-neighbor buys a truck with plow-you lose a whole street to him,cuz he's doing it for fun at 15 bucks a pop,without insurance,and any clue-but he's 1/2 price.Those guys dont plow commercial,obviously they need insurance-which they dont have,and a business ton commericals you make money with a dusting,they need salt-residentials dont want noe-and at 2-3" 1/2 of them complain you did them,and if you dont the other 1/2 want it done.I hate parkd cars in driveways-hard to plow wit them in the way.
At this point I do 25 residential drives with snow blowers. They are such a pain in the a**! Every person wants there driveway cleared first, they dont want to here about how i have 24 other to do! 98% have 2 or more cars in the drive to go around and most leave newspapers burried under the snow to jam up my snow blowers! I seriously considered buying a used truck and plow (dont want to use my new truck for plowing) wich would cost at least 6,000 for a decent one wasgoing tobe a sub contractor ($60 per hour) and do lots untill I got some experience plowing. I decided forget it... ill just have to suck it up and deal with the crap that goes along with residential. Doing my residentials i average60-90dollars per hour. If i went ahead and bought a nother truck and plow id be spending 6 grand and making 10-30 dollars a hour less!
Can we put in a 3'rd category here, "industrial"? My plowing is "in house", both my workplace and the small shop I rent for my own projects. I just get up early enough to clear my lot, go to work and get it ready before everyone rolls in. No one else is around that time of the morning, so it's pretty "hassle free".
Only thing to make sure of is getting work's lot done by about 6:45 am. From then on, just about everyone else in the industrial park races down the street at 60+ mph so as not to be late! And they're watching their watch/clock, not their driving.
Much prefer wide open commercial lots with no cars as opposed to residential or even plats.
We prefer commercial but we do residential as well. Our residentials understand that commercial come first. We have a couple that we mix in with our commercials (The county Sheriff and a Neurosurgon) when we get 5+" snows. I would like to have about 20 more residentials. But we don't push for them. Commerical provides to opportunity to put down salt. Easy money with high profits.
We do both commercial and residential. It is sometimes a problem with the difference in service levels expected, but we have gotten most of our residentials trained to expect a high level of service. Our residentials that are paved have the option of salt services and these generate us more $ per ton than our commercials even though we do have the higher travel cost. We charge our reidences 25% of there plow charge which sometimes amounts to $640.00/ton, I don't know to many commercial accounts that would pay that much. Our propertys that don't have paved drives are offered the possibility of sand application when the drive becomes icy either from freezing rain or thawing of the packed down snow. Everybody has to do what fits into there operation and what generates the highest return on investment.
I perfer Private roads.
1. No cars parked in the way.
2. Fast Plowing speeds.
3. No worrys about running out of room with the right truck and plow.
4. High dollar figure little time required.
Open 7:30 or 8:30 am till 2 or 3 PM. The close during a storm.
I base my route on commercial. then I will add a few res. if they are on the way to my next commercial acct. around here res. dont pay well there is always someone willing to plow for cheap. I would much rather do all commercial.