company owners without college

Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by MowingIL, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. dstifel

    dstifel LawnSite Senior Member
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    I won't disagree with the fact that of u dont have a degree there is a good chance you will have to physically work harder. I accepted that fact and would rather it be that way then wear a suit and tie everyday.
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  2. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Agreed. I don't ever have to wear a suit and tie to work and then I just change into boots, carhartts, and a shirt and mow, dig, etc... It's great. Not every highly degrees job requires a suit and tie. Also I enjoy physical labor but like knowing I don't have to do it when I'm 60 let alone 45.
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  3. TX Easymoney

    TX Easymoney LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Hard work keeps you young. My grsndfather was a farmer and could outwork most guys half his his age even at 78....very healthy until cancer hit...
     
  4. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    That's why I do it part time for now. Plus my full time involves "labor" but the fun type.
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  5. dstifel

    dstifel LawnSite Senior Member
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    Alls I'm saying is it is not essential to be successful. My father never took a college class in his life worked construction straight out of college. After 15 years of doing that he got a chance to interview to be the business agent for the local carpenters union. IT was him against 4 college graduates. He won , this was not only an interview but several tests had to be taken as well, which he outscored the people. PErfect example of how real world experience can outweigh sitting in a class room for four years.
     
  6. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
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    More than you think! I have a degree in electronics, paid for by the US Army, it wasn't until after ten years of service that I got my degree, but after realizing that working in Corporate America was a joke at best, working around mostly engineers most couldn't even read a set of dial calipers, and then there was the glass ceiling that I hit. Getting laid off was the final straw, degree or no degree, I have quite a few friends that are now business owners that have degrees in everything from biology to engineering but realized the same thing I did, even with the degree there is only so far your going, I basically wasted a bunch of time getting a degree that did nothing for me. I feel like I'm years behind the people that have been in business, I think that if you realize that your true passion is to have your own business, why waste time sitting in a classroom, going in debt when you could be out building your business, as part of that process take a few business classes along the way to give you some insight as to how business works, you don't need the full blown degree to get you there. I've met plenty of people that don't have degrees that I would love to have working for me, but of course they have their own business. Don't get me wrong, I totally understand the college degree concept, I just don't put a ton of faith into it. It's the personal drive that makes the man a success or not, no amount of college education can out do someone that has the drive and willingness to succeed.
     
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  7. Southern Heritage

    Southern Heritage LawnSite Member
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    I have a turf management degree and Horticulture degree. It didn't make me where I'm am to day but certainly it did not hurt me.. I learned a lot and have a successful full time company with 11 full time guys. I started with truck trailer and 21's. it did help me sell big jobs because I knew the terms to make it sound better then what it is. But with out a degree I would have learned it over time.
    Aka I wanted to be a golf course super until my 3 rd year of school when I met my first super and decided it wasn't for me. You ever add up what they get paid and actual hours it can be under what you pay you labors. Then the stress. Not for me.
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  8. JContracting

    JContracting LawnSite Bronze Member
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    This post explains it all.

    I will graduate with an Associate's in Horticulture in the spring (1 class remaining). I still haven't decided if I will pursue another degree. I spent 1.5 years (3 semesters) right after high school at UND pursing accounting but I didn't like being there and I had transferred to Anoka Technical College. Had 2 really crappy teachers (old guys) and they retired after my first semester here. The newest teacher (there are 2 existing, younger teachers) is actually a landscape contractor and is only in his lower 30s. Basically a hardscape genius, we did a permeable paver patio w/ 2 waterfalls crashing onto it and the water runs through and recycles back through the falls with 3 freestanding walls, as a project in class. Now that we finished the project, each student is using Pro Landscape Design Software to design what they would want for plants, mulch, lighting, around it.

    In my eyes, getting an education, whatever it may be, is never a waste. Except maybe Women's Studies or Fine Art or some BS like that.
     
  9. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
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    If there was an assoc degree horticulture program avaible around here I would take it, along with some business classes. The closest I can get is a Master Gardeners program, which I want to take anyway. I want to know as much as possible about the industry and all it entails, I love learning new stuff. just wish I could get paid for it.
     
  10. JContracting

    JContracting LawnSite Bronze Member
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    If it were only "cutting grass" you wouldnt be in business for yourself. You would be a laborer, not a BUSINESS OWNER. Regardless of what industry it is and services or products a business offer, you are still an owner, whether it be a garbage hauling company or an investment brokerage. When you own a garbage hauling service, you are not "just hauling garbage", or "just selling stocks". There is much more to it. Same goes with owning restaurants or whatever. Many go to college, many don't. But owning a service business is much more than just doing the service. That is how an ignorant mind thinks.
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