cool DIY'er has a quick question.. pretty please

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by Emerald Zoysia, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. Emerald Zoysia

    Emerald Zoysia LawnSite Member
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    thanks for looking! (i did read the sticky. please forgive!) ok, so i have the gable front on the left side of my house with the large cornice returns. i have played with uplighting (on the ground) on the corners but the returns block a signifigant amount of the light and it looks a little odd to me. can anyone recommend a technique that might offer a nice look for the front. i have a plan for the sides and back but the front needs some more love. oh yeah, the butchered crepe myrtle in the island between the two windows grows to quite the height during the summer. thanks for any tips and ideas.

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  2. extlights

    extlights LawnSite Senior Member
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    You can try and move the fixtures a little more towards the center...add a fixture right in the middle of the gable, or you could keep the 2 uplights and add a down light from the middle of the gable. You might have to play around with it to get the look your wanting. You'll probably want 3 fixtures over on that side to achieve what you want. You could also downlight the area completely.
     
  3. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    My recomendation would be a rather advanced mounting of fixtures that are not readily avalible to homeowners. They would involve mounting fixtures to the home and hiding wires. This wouldnt use a fixture you can find at a hardware store. That backyard is begging for moonlighting from what I can see but thats not a technique I would try if your unfamiliar with it.

    If you plan to butcher the crepe yearly I wouldnt light it.
     
  4. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
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    1: Mount a NS Guardian or other small white downlight to the very top Fascia of the Gable, Lamp = BAB MR16, or FMW MR16 with possible use of a optical spread lens.
    2: Mount 2 VISTA 5212 or 5103 Soft Floods into the garden bed beneath the windows fairly close to the foundation wall and aimed up. Lamp Q20X

    The Downlight will take care of the upper gable area from soffit to soffit and will take away the shadow formed above the returns caused by the two soft floods. by mounting the floods in tight to the wall you will get no glare to the inside through the windows, you will create a silhouette behind the foliage and create nice depth from shadows on the siding of the house.

    Probably beyond the ability of most DIY'ers to accomplish safely and properly.

    Regards.
     
  5. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
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    Hey Billy what kind of White Downlight would you use?? ;)
     
  6. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Who said I would downlight it Joey ? and who said I would use a white fixture ? Its true I do like the probe OSM but this is a DIY and last time I checked a DIY cant buy unique. Its also hard to tell by the angle but I dont see a bab covering all of the gable from a single mounting position directly above it. Whats the distance between the returns ?

    Since we went this far why not cross light the gable with lights mounted around the returns ?
     
  7. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
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    Geez Billy forget it......LOL.....A DIY cannot buy Unique unless the Dist. sells it to him. I cant always control that. I should have been more clear as to the Downlight, I just like the way you say Probe!.
     
  8. Emerald Zoysia

    Emerald Zoysia LawnSite Member
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    thanks for the replies. as for the width between returns, it is about 23 ft. an updated pic is below (note crepe). the other pic was from last year.

    i have considered pro install but i enjoy doing things myself. however, lighting is much more an art than just a job. wrong lights in the wrong places will surely mean disaster,,, and i don't want that. i fear though that my local installers might not have the skills that you guys seem to have.. i have seen many posted pics on this forum and most installs in my area don't seem to have the same impact. too many path lights it seems. i have not noticed any installers posting here from the augusta area.

    btw, the moonlighting idea is one that i have thought about. not sure at all how to properly do it but i bet that would be cool.. i'll save that for another day.

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  9. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Have a great day!
     
  10. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I can assure you that the fascia mounted downlight will be very effective and quite 'cool'. Heck I am feeling charitable tonight, give me a call if you want and I will even tell you how to do it properly.

    That is not a very large space so be sure to tread softly... using less is better then more on simple structures. Keep your lamp output down too. I would start out at 20w each in my example above and be prepared to even try 10w lamps. Hopefully you dont have a HPS Cobrahead Street Light at the curb 15' off your yard!

    Regards.
     

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