Crappy Edging or Install Problems

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by 4 seasons lawn&land, Feb 22, 2010.

  1. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
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    I did a paver side walk that is heaving excessively on both sides only, no where in the middle. So its shaped like a gutter, not that dramatic but its beveled.

    I did the edging on top of the last compacted lift and under the setting bed so I think the install part was right. But I used Home Depot edging which I've since seen others criticize, and I used the Home Depot plastic spikes every 3rd space.

    Can anyone offer some info or suggestions?
     
  2. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
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    Possibly your spikes are being forced up by frost and lifting the brick at the same time. Sounds more like an install issue rather than a material quality issue.
     
  3. Lugnut

    Lugnut LawnSite Senior Member
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    Edging issues usually give the opposite problem from what I've seen, giving the end pavers too much room to move around and settle, not push up. Not to criticize your work but perhaps your base was a little too thin and its heaved up on the edges? That would be my first thought if I got a callback to a walkway that looked like the one you explained.
     
  4. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
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    well it is really bad clay at this location so I did the base a little over a foot deep and 8" wider than the walk itself.

    So given the base and the edging instal details I mentioned earlier, is there something else I could have done wrong?
     
  5. Paverman

    Paverman LawnSite Member
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    try to use use steel spikes, the plastic ones have very little friction against the soil/base material. either galvanized or common
     
  6. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
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    thanks. Ive now read some discrediting remarks on the plastic spikes and depot Edge restraint. I cant think of anything else that could be happening. Can you curve edging too much? Because this was a tight curve.
     
  7. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
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    The clay is likely saturated or was saturated when the ground froze, is it possible the frost is coming out of the ground and pushing up on the restraint spikes?
     
  8. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
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    the clay was bad enough that it was shiney when compacted and the plate compactor left an inch deep indent but it was also a foot from the bottom of the pavers.
     
  9. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
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    How did you excavate the walkway, hand, bobcat, excavator?
     
  10. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
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    WB bobcat skid, why?
     

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