crazy ethanol

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by williams lcm, Mar 8, 2012.

  1. williams lcm

    williams lcm LawnSite Bronze Member
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    It is just me or am I crazy that my equipment takes about 10-20 pulls to get running when the heat and humidity increase during the day. 1 or 2 pulls in the morning. It is not just one brand of handhelds. They all act the same from the ethanol seperating from the gas. It pissies me off so much. My customers see me struggling to get the equipment running. It is all fairly new equipment. I tried some fuel additivies and nothing works. What are u guys using to help combat this situation?
     
  2. weeze

    weeze LawnSite Fanatic
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    there's something wrong with your equipment. mine starts on first or second pull every time first thing in the morning. the rest of the day they start first pull every time. make sure you use 89 or higher octane and not 87.
     
  3. ed2hess

    ed2hess LawnSite Fanatic
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    Mechanic in a bottle and if it doesn't work then your equipment needs repair.
     
  4. ed2hess

    ed2hess LawnSite Fanatic
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  5. weeze

    weeze LawnSite Fanatic
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    yeah try mechanic in a bottle, stabil, or sea foam. any of those should help clean it out a good bit.
     
  6. Patriot Services

    Patriot Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    Try a bottle of ethanol shield. If that improves the situation there you go. If not you may have other issues. Running 93 octane can cause hard starting by its very nature. Even in FL heat its only 2 pulls when hot on Echo and Stihl.
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  7. ALEX'S LANDSCAPING

    ALEX'S LANDSCAPING LawnSite Senior Member
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    What type of fuel grade are you running?
    You should be running at least 89 with a high quality 2-stroke oil.
    I run 91 with stihl HP ultra.
     
  8. ed2hess

    ed2hess LawnSite Fanatic
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    My experience with a large bunch of 2 stroke Echo is they do not start or run better with octane above 87 ever. It is way better to use something that will take any water out of the gas from the ethenol....like Mechanic in a bottle.
     
  9. Patriot Services

    Patriot Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    Ed gets a check every time somebody says "mechanic in a bottle". Let's help him out.
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  10. yardguy28

    yardguy28 LawnSite Platinum Member
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    there might be something wrong with your equipment but the fuel thing is garbage.

    I've NEVER purchased an ounce of anything except 87 octane fuel for anything.

    my equipment has NEVER given me problems starting either.
     

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