CT GVWR Laws and when do you need a CDL

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by CutRight, Feb 19, 2006.

  1. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
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    EDIT

    I misread what you typed here.

    The chart says that you can tow over 10k as long as the combo isn't over 26k(that would be a class A).

    The 19.5k/8k example doesn't meet the definition of class B(the truck is not over 26k). This example is a class D like I previously said.

    Keep in mind that a license class allows you to operate any lower class vehicle.
     
  2. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
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    http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/ncdlc.htm

    ;)
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2010
  3. GravelyNut

    GravelyNut LawnSite Bronze Member
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    What don't you understand about 1.2 telling you that the weight is the higher of the weights. And if the GCWR is higher than the GVWR, that is what applies. As his example is a combination of truck and trailer, with the trailer under 10 K, he still is Class B as their ruling is based on a combo. Class A just changes it to Class A from Class B if the trailer is over 10K and exceeds 26K total weight. 19K + 8K = 27K which is over the 26K+1 threshold but not over the 10K+1 trailer that would make it a Class A.

    This also matches what a FLDOT examiner told me. And also what the Ohio Highway Patrol told bobcatoh.
     
  4. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Gravelynut, seriously, what didn't you understand about my previous post? It doesn't get anymore point blank than that.

    I understand this perfectly. You're not reading it correctly. Trust me I am the farthest thing from an English major, so if I can read it you should be able too.

    No, it doesn't.

    Notice the bold red "or". It means one or the other (notice there is not a comma after "GVWR") not the greater of the two.

    For example if you are driving a CDL beater truck(25,999 GVWR) and it is registered for 27k or scales at 27k it would need a CDL to be driven.

    Like wise if you were driving a F250(9200 GVWR) pulling a 16k(GVWR) trailer and it actually scaled at 27k it would need a CDL.

    So again Class B is for straight trucks NOT combination vehicles.

    Notice it specifically says GVWR there is no other option here.

    Honestly, IMO, what some DMV employees say is worthless, especially second hand. I prefer something that can be read (and taken to the courtroom for evidence). What guarantees the the DMV employee read or understood what they read. Or that they even care. Ask three DOT cops the same question you will get three different answers, only one can be right, hell ask the same cop a question twice you will probably get 2 different answers.

    But really after my previous post I don't know what else to say other than to reiterate that ProTouch's example does NOT need a CDL.

    It is possible to have a 36k rig and NOT need a CDL.
     
  5. AI Inc

    AI Inc LawnSite Fanatic
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    Yes , if combined weight is over 26k , you need a CDL. Combined weight over 10k requires a medical card ( for this there may be an excemption if you are the owner , Im not sure , so dont quote me)
     
  6. GravelyNut

    GravelyNut LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I'd suggest you go back and read the NY definition again, they get to chose by whichever is greater. Is that so hard to understand? MFG's GVWR or GCWR is their choice to get to the highest weight. If they don't like those, they can nail you on registered weight, if higher. Or they can go after you for actual weight if they pull out the scales.

    This Examiner was/is also a DOT cop. So if you were to run into her, here in Florida, she has the rules of the road. And the blue light to enforce them her way. And after I posted this I asked a Class A CDL driver this question in the blind. His answer was the same. 26K+1 = CDL and for the example 19 + 8, his reply was CDL Class B. And he got his license in NJ and can tow doubles and triples.
     
  7. 360ci

    360ci LawnSite Senior Member
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    You guys would make a good couple.

    The last police-woman I ran into in the Southern US, was in a desperate need of a facial shave!
     
  8. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Midwest
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    I have read it thank you.

    It obviously is for you.

     
  9. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Midwest
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    She wasn't the kind you would want to get the gloves of treatment from Eh? :laugh:
     
  10. 360ci

    360ci LawnSite Senior Member
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    I just crossed into Louisiana a few years ago, and two DOT guys pulled me over, in the same car. The driver approached the cab, and I had cruise set at 55mph in a 55mph zone, which was a flat area for quite a bit yet. This HUGE officer stated once I had rolled my window all the way down and shut the truck off "Well sur, whatsit gunna bee. Ah speedin' violation, or ah log book violation?". I chose a speeding violation just so it wouldn't go back against the company.

    The satellite system on the truck even proved that I was doing the speed limit on that road after I was able to get the download. I was pissed, so I drove to the next rest area that had a fax machine, and sent a copy with my 'ticket' to the DOT also stating that I'll be back in time for the court date as I was going to fight the ticket. They phoned me back three hours later when I was stopped for lunch to tell me that the ticket's been thrown out, and a comfirmation letter will be couriered to my office stating so. Four days later it was at the office, two weeks before the court date!

    For some officers, the do take advantage of the blue light. I'm sure in this case this guy was just showing off to his partner, because they were bored and the road had NO traffic on it, either than myself. It's just a waste of time, but it's also good to know that these guys are few and far between.
     

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