Cummins or PowerStroke

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by Mowman, Nov 26, 2001.

  1. Mowman

    Mowman LawnSite Senior Member
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    A guy told me this morning that the Cummins is better in the mileage department than the PSD. He has owned nothing but FORDS. He says a friend of his has a Dodge w/ Cummins and will get way better fuel mileage than his PSD. Said that pulling the same weight of trailers the Cummins will get about 17mpg compared to his 11mpg. He said he'd like to have a Cummins for this reason but can't bring himself to driving a DODGE. Can any of you comment on this? Trucks have the same gear ratio in them, both 4WD. Was leaning toward the PSD, now after hearing this I might have to LOOK a little harder at a Dodge.
    Thanks,
    Mowman
     
  2. MOWMAN
    Another option is the izusu duramax that is in chevys .I dont have mine yet it is on order but my dad already has one and he says he gets almost 20 miles agallon its a 4x4 puling a huge boat
    BUT that would be mostly open highway driveing mileage
     
  3. a1 lawncare

    a1 lawncare LawnSite Member
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    i have had 3 cummins/dodge trucks my best empty milage was 21.1 mpg, everyday driving in town i get about 18.5 driving the way i like to drive, i can baby it and do a little better, the only time i've ever checked my towing milage was pulling my bass boat out to missouri, i got 15.7, boat is around 3k#, i am tickeled to get this kind of milage with a 3/4 ton 4x4. on the psd, my dad has one 1 ton dually 4x4 and he says he gets around 15 empty around town little better on the road, with a load he says he'll get around 11-12 depending on the weight of the load, it does however pull better than any of the dodges i've had, but for what i need the dodge is more than adequate. the only thing i'll ding the dodges on is they need better brakes...

    on peoples milage watch out for fudge factors, i dont know how some people figure there milage, unless its the same way i figure my old ford, 2 mpg in town 4 on the road =24mpg

    best of luck on your search for a new ride, keith
     
  4. landscaper3

    landscaper3 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    We own 2 Fords 1tons with diesels, one chevy with a 454 and a dodge with a 360 gas. We also had 2 Dodges with cummings motors (awsome engines) we had trany problems with them do to commercial plowing and doing extensive research on them alot not all but alot had SAME problems we did so we changed to Ford and there AOED trany isnt much better but on 1 has been replaced instead of 4 dodges. We get 20mpg on PSD 4WD 1ton truck and 16 with the dual wheel one, we got 20mpg with our cummings truck and 14mpg with our dually one. The best truck would be Ford body, cummings motor and allison trany. Boy that would be a truck. To give you an idea cummings are 2 cylinders less and around 100CI less then ford and duramax and seeing all 3 on dynos they are at rear wheel within 28hp from eachother. Our PSD pickup with hop ups run 309hp and 663LBS
     
  5. Mgardner

    Mgardner LawnSite Member
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    I owned a 93 F-250 w\ Navistar 445c.i. diesel,then ran a new 97 powerstrokeF-250 both 4wd. The 93 got good mileage and had 3:56 gears ,the 97 got bad mileage with 4:10 ratio. I sold the 97 went to Nothern Iowa from an add and bought sight unseen a 91 Dodge with Cummins-5speed-3:55 gears. Dont have anything bad to say about the Fords but I really like that Cummins for any kind of work. The previous post about the Ford with the Cummins and Allison trans is exactly what I`ve aways said too.Knock on wood the 5 speed has held up ,but I`m the only one that drives it and I know I could pull the guts out of it but it is my only bread winner.Plow with it,pull goosneck trailer,landscape trailer all year round and the damn thing just begs for more.
     
  6. dhicks

    dhicks Member
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    While I didn't have a load, I averaged 21.6 MPG in my Duramax coming back from Ontario. I expect future milage to be even better as it just turned 4K miles coming home.

    Pulling my rig, I typically get 14-16 MPG and thats a combination of highway and city streets.
     
  7. dhicks

    Then my dads must be getting some good mileage ?because he's'geting almost 20 pulling a monster boat
     
  8. Bunton Guy

    Bunton Guy LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I had a Motocross race in PA and comming from Charlotte nc I got 18 mpg in my 01 F-350 PSD pulling a 8,000 # enclosed trailer...beleive me no arrowdynamics was with either of these vehicles.
     
  9. John DiMartino

    John DiMartino LawnSite Silver Member
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    If fuel mileage is your biggest concern,the Cummins,or duramax will probably do the best.We towed with both,2 boats,the duramax got as good as the Cummins,the Dodge is a 2wd dually,the Duramax is 4wd 2500,so it probably equals out there.The pwerstroke is good on fuel from what ive seen,too,just not qiute as good as the Cummins/Duramax.I get 16-18.5 with my 2000 Dodge Cummins,auto,which to me is amazing if you seen how heavy my foot is.I also have 4.10 gears.With all diesels,the biggest thing is RPM's,on the highway,if i drive my truck sanely,at 65 mph,I can easily get 21mpg,but if i crank it up to 85,it drops to 15,but i think my 4.10 gears are to blame too.I still feel for pulling a lot of weight the Cummins has no equal,at least mine and my dads dont,mildly hopped up these motors make gobs of torque,and can hold top gear up 95% of the grades with most any trailer.
     
  10. penn955

    penn955 LawnSite Member
    from CT
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    Last year I purchased a Dodge Cummins 4x4 with the 6 speed H.O. for towing and plowing. Stock it pulled skid steers and small rollers fine but I found out I could spend $1500 and have 350 hp and 700ft lbs at the rear wheels reliably. The thing now pulls like a MONSTER. Fuel mileage is 20-22 empty and 14 -15 loaded. If you want the best fuel economy find a used 12 valve cummins. They are by far the best on fuel. We had a 98 auto 4x4 3.54 gear and it would not get under 20mpg loaded or not.
     

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