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Customer wants me to line a creek

Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by Gordons Landscape, Mar 9, 2004.

  1. Gordons Landscape

    Gordons Landscape LawnSite Member
    Posts: 47

    Customer wants me to line a creek with natural stone that they provide. First they want me to clean it out with a bobcat. Then they want me to line it with natural stone. Anyone ever due this before? What do I charge? What problems will I run into? Thanks in advance!!
  2. Avery

    Avery LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,389

    You will run into mega EPA problems if you go near a creek bed with a front end loader. At least in NC.
  3. kris

    kris LawnSite Bronze Member
    from nowhere
    Posts: 1,579

    Yes, make sure you have any applicable permits or you'll be looking at some pretty steep fines.
  4. Grassmechanic

    Grassmechanic LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,697

    How big is the creek? Is it considered a "navigable waterway"? Has an "Environmental Impact Study" been completed? Where are the spoils going to be disposed of? Like the others said, you'll need permits from EPA, local Drain Commission, possibly U.S. Dept Corps of Engineers, and your state Ag Dept.
  5. Gordons Landscape

    Gordons Landscape LawnSite Member
    Posts: 47

    Its a creek in back of there yard its very small it goes into a Water ski lake that 12 or so houses use. Will this be a problem? After I deal with govt. agencys what other problems can I expect. Thanks,
  6. Mdirrigation

    Mdirrigation LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,633

    Let the customer get drawings and permits , and in about 2 years they may be ready to have it bid out
  7. daveyo

    daveyo LawnSite Senior Member
    from N.J.
    Posts: 907

    Don't touch the creek, you will interfere with groundwater recharge and drainage. the creek is definitely helping drain the area, if it doesn't function properly your going to be responsible.

  8. Grassmechanic

    Grassmechanic LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,697

    Is the lake privately owned? There may be riparian rights that will come into play. Why does the homeowner want this done? He'll never get the permits if it's for aesthetics only. My guess is that he won't spend the money or time to pursue the necessary permit processes. Messing with bodies of water ALWAYS upsets nearby landowners. And MDIrrigation is right - it can take up to 2 years to get the permits.
  9. landscapingpoolguy

    landscapingpoolguy LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 819

    That creek is probably protected Wetland Area, we have emall over the place here.

  10. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 7,129

    Once you've taken the proper precautions and presuming you can do the work. You may want to use a mini excavator instead of skid steer. Spring in KS in has to be muddy and you will for sure make a mess with a skid steer even a tracked one. I would get a miniex with a clean out bucket (larger bucket with smooth lip no digging teeth) clean the bank and add the river rock. If your good on an excavator you could dump the rock close with a skid steer and lay them in with the excavator if not place by hand.

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