Cut Off Saw (chop saw) vs Table Saw

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by DVS Hardscaper, Dec 22, 2012.

  1. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    Correct. The overall job was over $6500.00.

    Work sold and performed Dec through Mid march are done for winter discount rates. Off the top of my head I'd say they saved around $500 maybe as much as $700 by doing the work during off peak season.

    It's just like the construction of a Ryan Home vs a home built stick by stick. Always a difference in cost. And quality.
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  2. jbailey52

    jbailey52 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    What about the base?
     
  3. DVS Hardscaper

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    LOL

    Lets keep it real buddy. Not competing to see who's manhood is bigger.

    Veteran contractors come in here whining about being underbid. Because rookie contractors have no clue why they're Gettin into. Now some newbie will think that's truly possible.

    This border could not have been mitered in 2 hrs as you claim. Just not humanly and physically possible. Reality is that saw can only cut so fast.
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  4. DVS Hardscaper

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    That's a vague question. Do you mean excavation and base installation? Or are you asking what the base is?

    There are two walks at this property that we did at the same time. Base prep was routine. Both walk's bases measured, marked, installed compacted, leveled, and remarked again for sand application in about 10 hrs.

    Lets try to stay on subject please. Table saws. We can talk about production of different aspects of paver installation in a different thread :) I good at talkin about production, that subject is part of my sales presentation :)

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  5. jbailey52

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  6. DVS Hardscaper

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    Our bases always extend a min of 6" past the edge of the pavement. If there is a elevation drop - then it's accordingly more. When we do a job we do not install the base exactly where the finished product is to be. We used to do that but I found that all the measuring wasted time. So sometimes there will be way too much aggregate In places. It all gets worked out as we go.

    Just like in our beginning days we used to install edge restraint first. Then, we realized that wasn't productive.

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  7. jbailey52

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    I need to get my ruler out!
     
  8. big daddy b

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    Nah of course not, if we were competing you'd clearly lose.


    What are you even talking about? Some newbie will think what is truly possible?
    Just because you old farts are still doing installations the ancient ways and can't do it fast and efficient like the young bucks are doing it these days.

    Maybe that's why your getting underbid. Some people have faster and easier methods with their installations.

    How long was that walkway in your picture? 50' max?
    Those were clay pavers?
    At most, that would have taken me 3 full hours of actual cutting.
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  9. big daddy b

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    So much for not turning your computer on until next week.

    You definitely don't have a full 6" on the bottom left side of the picture.
    I don't think that spot is even wide enough for snap edge.
     
  10. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Theirs no way I could do all that cutting in 2 hrs or anyone on my crew. I would need more than 1 saw going. And when putting a proposal together I would never factor just 2 hrs. For that amount of cutting that's just silly.
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