I saw a Scag Sabre Tooth Tiger & a 61" Great Dane Chariot in the same day a week or so ago. These machines had the same frame. The control sticks, deck and engine mounting were different (horizotal/vertical) I bet they share the same hydo parts too. How much alike are they really? Oh, and as far as the sideways engine mounting people spoke of problems with. I have seen acouple of old ones that way. But the new machines I saw had Kawi's mounted normal.