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Dark Sky

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by TheHotShotKid, Mar 11, 2006.

  1. TheHotShotKid

    TheHotShotKid LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 169

    Do you give any credence to this organization?
  2. TheHotShotKid

    TheHotShotKid LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 169

    I sometimers wonder if they are not a subversive organization . What do you think.
  3. steveparrott

    steveparrott Sponsor
    Posts: 1,196

    The International Dark-Sky Association (IDA) is a powerful organization that is having a huge impact around the country. There are numerous municipalities that have adopted various aspects of their guidelines.

    Here are some of their goals taken from their mission statement:

    Stop the adverse effects of light pollution on dark skies, including:
    -Energy waste and the air and water pollution caused by energy waste
    -Harm to human health
    -Harm to nocturnal wildlife and ecosystems
    -Reduced safety and security
    -Reduced visibility at night
    -Poor nighttime ambience
    -Raise awareness about light pollution, its adverse effects, and its solutions
    -Educate everyone, everywhere about the values of quality outdoor lighting

    A recent significant development is that the IESNA (Illumination Engineering Society of North America – a powerful industry associated trade and educational group) has signed an agreement with IDA to co-create a Model Lighting Ordinance (MLO). This is significant because the IESNA had been battling with the IDA over previous IDA guidelines.

    This new MLO is likely to receive greater acceptance by and attraction for many communities because of the legitimacy that IESNA brings to the table. Don't be surprised if your local towns start adopting these ordinances, many already have.

    As lighting designers you will find certain restrictions such as "no uplights greater than 50 degrees from vertical" or "no uplights exceeding a certain level of lumens". As you become more educated you will want to promote the fact that you are "dark-sky friendly".

    Go to www.darksky.org for more info.
  4. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,209

    Steve, I am a member of the IDA. Currently there is a housing development here that is the first of it's kind in my area. It does not allow any uplighting and all landscape lighting must be low voltage. They have put this into their covenants and they use my services as a consultant.
  5. steveparrott

    steveparrott Sponsor
    Posts: 1,196


    Have you seen a good summary of any IDA guidelines as they apply to our low-voltage work?

    I think this a great example of an area where the LVLIA could develop something like a position statement on IDA guidelines, and provide input for the joint effort between the IESNA and IDA.
  6. TheHotShotKid

    TheHotShotKid LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 169

    Steve that's my point precisely. the LVLIA is too busy chasing shadows to focus on more important issue like how these folks want to limit or abolish the use of uplighting. There should be a counter association formed to limit the use of telescopes viewing the stars. I mean what gives them the right to regulate what people do in the privacy of their own yards. As long as light stays within property lines then who are they to regulate the air space above private property? Let the FAA take care of that. Let them eat cake.
  7. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,209

    Steve, the IDA is a member of the LVLIA and we are in discussions as well. They recognize that low voltage landscape lighting is the way to go. The LVLIA is also attending the annual meeting next week in Tucson.
  8. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,181

    Huh what how did I get dragged into this one ???? Dont even be mixing me up with that guy steve!
  9. steveparrott

    steveparrott Sponsor
    Posts: 1,196


    Good to hear that the LVLIA and the IDA are talking.
  10. YardPro

    YardPro LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,563

    the leverage that they have is that the light DOES NOT STAY ON THIER PROPERTY.

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