DEISEL>. vs GAS

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by scraper69, Feb 4, 2005.

  1. scraper69

    scraper69 LawnSite Senior Member
    from mi
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    lookin into a 6yd dump ..6500 chevy or F650 .. decisions..?? Gas or deisel../ deisel is about 9k more... like deisel..but really dont put the mileage on to account for extra cost.. any suggestions../? and any comments on types of 6yard dumps.. good bad ...pros and cons.. chevy vs international vs ford???

    thanks
     
  2. Stinger

    Stinger LawnSite Senior Member
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    Rented a International diesel 6yd dump last month to deliver 40 yards of mulch to a job. Not really loaded heavy enough to tell the true performance of the diesel at only 8 yds per load. Truck had over 200,000 miles on it and ran well overall. The fuel gage was broke but it had dual self leveling tanks so that was ok. Five speed manual tranny was also good. Just couldn't't get her much past 70 unless I was headed downhill.
     
  3. scraper69

    scraper69 LawnSite Senior Member
    from mi
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    i'm leaning toward the Chevy Kodiak.. 6500 just cant decide.. DEISEL OR GAS and AUTO or MANUAL>///
     
  4. RedWingsDet

    RedWingsDet LawnSite Gold Member
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    I have no expierence with those kind of trucks.

    But an Auto Diesel sounds pretty dang inviting!!!!
     
  5. TerraVenture

    TerraVenture LawnSite Member
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    not sure about chevy but all of the other manufacturers no longer offer gas engines in class 6 trucks. I wouldn't even consider gas even it was offered. The longevity, torque and fuel economy sold me on diesel long ago. A class 6 truck will probably be getting around 8mpg I would assume. I know from talking to truckers that the large class 8 ten wheelers and tri axles running 400 to 600 hp trucks get between 5 and 7mpg.
     
  6. Albemarle Lawn

    Albemarle Lawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I have a C5500 Kodiak, GVW 22,000, automatic, with Duramax/Allison LCT2400.

    It runs well, very strong even fully loaded. Stays at 22,000 most of the time with my Cat skidsteer on board.

    The 7800 Duramax straight-six is worth getting. If not, the 6.6 or Caterpillar are available too.

    The gasser will be an underpowered fuel pig in that size truck. Gassers are mostly intended for UHAUL, etc, where someone else is paying the gas bill.
     
  7. scraper69

    scraper69 LawnSite Senior Member
    from mi
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    i kinda agree.. hey what can you load up in your 5500.. is it a 3 yd or 6 yd box...
     
  8. sdwally

    sdwally LawnSite Senior Member
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    If the area you are in is realitivly flat, gas will be ok. If it is hilly, go diesel. Diesel will handle hills better fully loaded without slowing down to a snail pace. My opinion though. Diesels engines last longer, but cost more to maintain.
     
  9. scraper69

    scraper69 LawnSite Senior Member
    from mi
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    they do last longer.. but the truck will probably rust out before the engine dies... why have an engine if you have no frame or body
     
  10. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    You definatly don't want a gas powered truck unless you really want a truck that will get 6mpg tops and a truck that has no pulling power whatsoever.

    As for size of a truck a 650 is a pretty small truck which is a 3 ton and let me guess you are trying to buy a truck that is under the CDL rule you guys have to deal with in the states. A 650 Ford or a 6500 Chev won't haul much material I bet by the time you put the box on the truck you will have about 5 ton legal payload.

    If you really want a good single axle dump truck look at a T-300 kenworth or a 330/335 Pete with 3126 cat power. It will cost you more up front but the truck will out last the Ford 650 and the 6500 Chev by a large margin and the resale value will be far better.

    If you are looking just for a landscape truck then stick with a 450-550 Ford or 4500-5500 Chev.
     

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