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Demo # 2 LD CT 322

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by AWJ Services, Apr 17, 2006.

  1. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
    Posts: 4,276

    I really am disapointed in it.
    I guess my expectations were too high.

    I will list all the faults as best I can.

    1. The cab is very hard too get in and out of
    2. The door is a royal pain.It has too be closed for it too move and it also
    has to be closed too access the ign key.
    3.The seat belt has a ratchet in it that makes it tighten up and not
    release and applies alot of pressure on you and if you hit a bump it gets
    even tighter.The machine will not move without it on and everytime you
    leave the seat the belt must be reattached befor it will move.No cheating.
    4.The aux hyd control is actuated by unlocking the right handle and twisting
    it left and right.Requires quite a fair amount of pressure too move.
    5.The noise.It is almost unbearable.
    6.The boom moves left and right whenever you apply any pressure.I had
    a bucket of gravel about eye level and as the ground level changed the
    bucket swayed left and right.
    7.When digging going forward the boom would actually move up as you
    applied bucket curl too dig.
    8. The machine will not back drag with any bucket down force.On flat
    Ground it will but it will not pull any load.
    9.The noise it is unbearable.
    10.The machine has no hydraulic power.I pulled up too a pile of dirt and it
    would not even lift it.The bucket would curl but even then the boom
    would not lift.
    11.The machine has to be run at wot for it to operate without stalling.
    12. The Ac condensor is just waiting to be knocked off.
    13.All the controls are just so raw.After using the Takeuchi it was like
    stepping back too horse and buggy days

    These are just a few of the many things about it that are sub standard.

    I was somewhat critical of the TL 140 but after using this machine there is no comparison.
    I actually can not conceive how somone would purchase this thing.
    I have not found one thing it does well yet except lift more weight than other machines it's size.The noise is unbearable.You cannot even hear the backup beeper it is so loud.
    And the seat belt really got tight on me.Very poor design.
    The cab is tiny.Reminded me of crawling in a Barrel.

    I do not want to offend anybody that owns one .I am only giving my opinion.
    I have a 26k sgft sod job too start tomorrw so I will be on it most of the day.We will see.
  2. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 7,129

    Now imagine the boom sway with 1500-2000 hours on it.
  3. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
    Posts: 4,276


    I asked the salesman about the wear and tear on the boom from grading and he said when you drop the boom all the way down for grading it will be supported by the frame allowing the load too be taken off the boom and linkage.
    The only problem is as you curl the bucket down to dig it actually picks the boom up off the support pads.
  4. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 7,129

    I think running a breaker or simply load and carry operations over rough ground will take its toll on the loader arm linkage. It just does not appear to be built for very demanding applications. Any luck finding a CASE tracked machine to run?
  5. qps

    qps LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Indy
    Posts: 1,484

    CASE makes a track machine:waving:
  6. bobcatboy

    bobcatboy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 115

    yeah I tested one of deere's machine and I have to agree with you about the noise. They ARE VERY LOUD. The hydrollic noise is unreal. The controls are to hard to actuate.
  7. Caribbean Breeze

    Caribbean Breeze LawnSite Member
    Posts: 60

    After having a chance to run a 322ct, I decided that it was a machine that we will not purchase becuase of the following factors

    Boom Sway
    Cab & cab door
    Hydraulic performance

    The comparison with a Takeuchi is obvious that the Takeuchi is easier on the operator. Deere definately has a long way to go...

    Case has the strongest booms in the business, Bobcat admits this in sales training classes. After 3000 hrs on a 60XT and very little boom sway...
    Case makes very rugged booms...:usflag:

    Caribbean Breeze
  8. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,067

    The Case tracked machines look like the cat's meow. If we were shopping for a CTL, I would definately look at Case.
  9. bobcatboy

    bobcatboy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 115

    yeah you are right about them bieng very stout but case needs to work on there control levers. I ran one and those controls were just to hard to get-in the groove in one
  10. Caribbean Breeze

    Caribbean Breeze LawnSite Member
    Posts: 60


    Have you looked at the RC85 from ASV?

    Keep in mind that the track life is better (track is more expensive as well) but it is a very good option to try. If not - Take....your hoochie!!!!!!!!


    I hear you man, they are working on it so maybe by 3rd quarter.

    Caribbean Breeze:waving:

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