Demoed a JD Z-Trak 727

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Joel B., Sep 18, 2002.

  1. Joel B.

    Joel B. LawnSite Senior Member
    from MN
    Posts: 458

    I demoed a JD Z-Trak 727 yesterday and was quite impressed. It had a 23 horse Kawasaki and a 54" deck, plenty of power.

    It seemed to have a nicer cut than the Exmark Lazer HP I had demoed earlier this summer. I know there are many factors in the quality of cut, but has anyone else noticed the quality of cut with one of the JD Z-traks?

    The Exmark dealer is a little closer and they sure have the reputation but I really liked the cut of the JD. The JD dealer said the deck really shines when cutting heavy, wet grass.

    Oh well, I guess I couldn't really go wrong with either one.

    Thanks for any opinions,

    Joel B.
     
  2. FrankenScagMachines

    FrankenScagMachines LawnSite Platinum Member
    from IN
    Posts: 4,739

    I have no clue what kind of grass you're cutting but it must not stripe good with any mower and it must not grow much between mowings either. If this is true, the JD might be OK (if it wasn't for the dealers :rolleyes: ). The 7 iron deck, IMO, doesn't cut that good and doesn't rechop clippings like the eXmark does (not good unless you're only cutting off 1/2" and you're mowing at 3"), doesn't stripe at all, and did i mention the dealers? :rolleyes: They just seem to be priced higher than they're worth IMO. I guarantee you'll see alot more eXmarks, Scags, Dixie Choppers, etc. than you will John Deere's. There is a very good reason(s) for this! Investigate investigate, investigate! If you get one you might like it and for your situations it might be better than another mower but I just mean look close first! :cool:
     
  3. Joel B.

    Joel B. LawnSite Senior Member
    from MN
    Posts: 458

    BushHogBoy,

    You're right about one thing; about 99% of the cutters I see around here use Exmarks and like you say, there must be a good reason why they do.

    Joel B.
     
  4. walker-talker

    walker-talker LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Midwest
    Posts: 4,771

    I recently ran a poll on personal choices...it went something like this:

    JD--------------2 votes
    Exmark------22 votes
    All others---20 votes
    Then there was Grasshopper with 0 votes.
    I ran the poll so that a friend would see what other professionals were using.

    MATT
     
  5. FrankenScagMachines

    FrankenScagMachines LawnSite Platinum Member
    from IN
    Posts: 4,739

    If this is a 2001 mower, I'm right about more than one thing ;) I just mean check it out real good first. I know they made some changes to the mower for this year, but I haven't tried out the newer ones. Last year's M655 54" 25hp Kohler midmount ZTR really sucked.
    If you get it I hope it works out good for ya.
     
  6. ScotLawn

    ScotLawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 309

    At the Expo, 65Hoss and I tried a few of JD's z's and was impressed with the 717's controls and speed. the 737, i think, was not as easy on the hands for the controls. I wish they would have let us engage the blades for a cut demo but that was not going to happen. I'm an Exmark guy but i must say the 717 was impressive in speed. Ask Hoss about how he popped that thing up on two wheels without even trying.

    Scot
     
  7. lee b

    lee b LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 5,521

    I have a M665 with the 60" 7-iron deck, over 600 hours with very few problems. Gives a very nice cut, it's true it doesn't mulch the clippings up as fine as the exmark, but in tall wet grass it shines. And I've dealt with several Deere dealers {farm also} and I've never met a Deere dealer who wouldn't bend over backwards to help me, plus they always have the best shop and mechanics you can find. Deere stands behind their products 100%. Everybody loves the exmark, so it must be a fine machine, but in MHO so is the Deere.
     
  8. GLS

    GLS LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,173

    I have no experience with deere's ztr's, but many people in my area operate them. If I were to buy one, I would definetely check out exmark because people recommend them most here on lawnsite. I would say that half of the lco's around here use deere. Others use toros, and there are a few other brands, but I don't see a lot of exmarks.

    PS- someone mentioned deere dealers not being any good...mine has good service:)
     
  9. Mowingman

    Mowingman LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Texas
    Posts: 4,656

    Lee and I are on opposite sides of this JD ZTR issue. He has had good luck with his. I had the same model machine and it was the worst ZTR I have ever owned. About the cut. I found it would cut anything you could run over. Problem is, it cuts it once and sends it out the discharge chute. Clippings were very long and coarse. I would say to get the mulch kit if you go with the JD. If it was a choice of Exmark or JD, I would get the exmark. I say this without ever having owned an Exmark machine.:D
     
  10. cglservice

    cglservice LawnSite Member
    from Ky
    Posts: 101

    Many things about the JD are right I bought 665 this spring got a great deal on the price love the seven iron deck for making one pass cut or when cutting in the rain have yet had to clean the deck out.

    BUT! I have started looking at other mowers latley and the scag has a much bigger fluid cooler (twice the size of JD) and is behind the seat out in the open where more air can get to it (mine is down under the seat where alot of grass and other objects can get to it). Scag has on ten gallon tank in the middle of the machine seems better to me, many other features that i personaly find better than the JD .

    Well be checking Exmark out soon,(winter project)

    I guess it all boils down to what you think is best for you personaly but I am starting to see things on other machines that I wish mine had.

    Good Luck:)
     

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