I demoed a Permagreen today and came away less than impressed. My biggest compaint is that the handling is not very intuitive. It took a good bit of muscle to make turns and the brake didn't work well. Also, Shifting into reverse was was a pain. I often found myself stopping to look down at the shift lever trying to back-out of a nook in the yard. To be fair it was a a used demo unit with about 200 hrs. on it. The hopper wouldn't stay open and the third hole adjuster was broken. Perhaps the unit would have been easier to operate if I didn't have to hold the hopper chute open? At any rate the fact that a unit with only 200 hrs on it and was in such bad shape is dissappointing. I was rather suprised. I expexted to fall in love with the PG based on what i've read and heard of it. Instead I returned it early and got on the phone with Andy at LT rich. I hope the Z-spays are a far better machine. I think I would continue to push and drag hoses before I spent 6k on a PG. What do you guys think of the Z-spray?