Design Ideas - back

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by EveningIllumination, Dec 2, 2010.

  1. EveningIllumination

    EveningIllumination LawnSite Member
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    Here are photos of the back of the same property as previous post. Any and all design suggestions are welcome and appreciated!! Thank You.

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  2. niteliters

    niteliters LawnSite Senior Member
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    Bobbi is it? tough to point you in a clear direction with out more info. What are your clients needs? What are their lighting likes/dislikes. What's their sensitivity to lighting? How old are they? Is this their primary home? How much do they entertain? Do they have kids? How old? What outdoor rooms do they want you to address? I'm guessing the pool area etc. but is that it? What's behind you? What's around them? Is it a new unestablished neighborhood or are there houses all around with lighting? What kind,if any, ambient light is around? These are some questions that pop into my head at the moment that would be helpful to have answers to before I could offer helpful advice.
     
  3. niteliters

    niteliters LawnSite Senior Member
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    Don't mean to hit you with a lot of questions, but in my opinion, if you don't have some or most of these answered you might end up with a great design but for who? for you? for someone else who might respond to this thread? Only IF the design reflects the clients desires, molded by you, will you truly be able to create a work of art that they will be willing to pay good money for. Short of that you might find yourself battling in the trenches with all the others. This reads more uppity and opioniated than I mean it to be. You might have conducted a thorough interview with your potential client, if not, that would be might first design suggestion.
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  4. EveningIllumination

    EveningIllumination LawnSite Member
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  5. EveningIllumination

    EveningIllumination LawnSite Member
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    Here is a quick photo of the demo I setup tonight. The camera battery died so I only got this one photo of the back. The wife really likes it - the husband is out of town until Wednesday. can somebody verify for me that Unique's Expedition fixture has a longer sided top to block that glare. What I am using in the demo is a Saturn path light on two brass extensions because to get the fixture at least ten feet from the edge of the pool it has to go into the shrubs that are about 2.5high. This is only part of the lighting scheme for the back - I am planning to put Unique's Nova fixtures at the base of each of the columns around the patio side of the house. Any and all suggestions and comments are welcome and appreciated!!

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    Thank You - Have A Great Day!!
    Bobbi
     
  6. RLI Electric

    RLI Electric LawnSite Senior Member
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    Those Floridian plants are tough for me to imagine working with but I think I would leave the small palm on the right unlit. If you can't balance the scene on the left side of the taller palms it appears to me that you are just lighting stuff. Looking at the daytime shot standing at the far side of the pool I would imagine that scene uplighting and downlighting from the larger palms. The large windows with light create way too much visual distraction. Uplighting the columns, just a thought and I don't know how it would look but what about instead of focusing on the column go to the center of the arch and use a wider beam so the columns arent the typical blown out thing and the arch is brought into it. It's just a thought, this is not the architecture in my area so I don't know how it would appear. I think Vision 3 may have a fixture for that.
     
  7. niteliters

    niteliters LawnSite Senior Member
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    not enogh info to give you opinion based on this photo. The one thing you did say that, in the end, matters most...She really likes it. That's the most important part. they have had lighting so you're not dealing with an uneducated person who has never seen lighting on or around this property. Will you leave this for husband to see Wednesday?
     
  8. The Lighting Geek

    The Lighting Geek LawnSite Senior Member
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    Bobbi, try the brass knight Lancer 6, I believe, and use just one extension and it will really help with glare. I like to be no higher than 36" high if I can help it unless we are using them in a rose garden then I go higher. Just my 2 cents :)
     
  9. EveningIllumination

    EveningIllumination LawnSite Member
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    Hi Bob - Thanks for your input. I love all the Florida plants and such. It will be a great education learning what lighting effects look best on what plants and I am looking forward to the challenge. The photo above is only a partial plan as I don't have a big enough demo kit to set it up completely. To finish it out I will have lighting on the house around the left side from the Nova lights I plan on putting in front of the columns. Placing the lights under the arch will create a tripping hazard I think because the covered patio is only about 1/3 of the total patio area and it is through the archways that you access the rest of the patio on both sides. And then on the right side I will be using at least one PAR36 well light to light up through a bougainvillea and catch the right side roof line. The scene from inside the house is very beautiful and she commented again today how nice it looks.
     
  10. EveningIllumination

    EveningIllumination LawnSite Member
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    Hi Tommy - Thank You for your input. The shrubs in that bed where I am going to have to put the light, because of the 10foot from the pool rule, are at 24"-30" now. What is the best height above the shrubs to get maximum light distribution distance?
     

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