Difference in Cat and ASV MTL's?

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by nedly05, Mar 3, 2010.

  1. nedly05

    nedly05 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I've taken an interest in MTL's and I particularly like the ASV SR80. I know thats not the newest series ASV but thats what I would get. What is the difference in the SR80 and say a Cat 277? Does the Cat have as good traction as the ASV? is the ground pressure comparable? What do you guys think, Cat or ASV?
     
  2. AEL

    AEL LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Asv builds the machine specificly for tracks, where as cat is a skidsteer chasis on an u/c. Just ask JPG he seems to have great success with his asv machines.
     
  3. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
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    You'll like the 277C Cat better than the ASV SR80, bigger cab for one and you aren't sitting in a small cab surrounded by a PLASTIC fuel tank.
    THE ASV is still better suited for the undercarriage, but the Cat is more "skid steer like", I've seen a local PT60 owner in our area with his machine and it's always dancing on the front, the ASV's weight is 50/50 distribution, I like more ass weight since I run heavier buckets.
     
  4. Ozz

    Ozz LawnSite Senior Member
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    I bet you like it for other easons too...:laugh:

    But yah, Ron's right. Heavier buckets on a 277 will be better than ASV. I wouldn't trust a plastic fuel tank... Particularly wrapping around the machine. I had a double take whn I saw an ASV like that.
     
  5. nedly05

    nedly05 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I would need the traction and low ground pressure of the ASV. I had a hunch the Cat was just the ASV U/C on a skid chassis. I know a tree service owner locally that has run them (ASV) for a long time now and he keeps going back to them. The Cats seem to be easier to some by and cheaper but lack a few things, like standard hi and low flow and more auxillary hydraulic outlets. Seems like no machine is perfect, there always has to be a sacrifice.
     
  6. Tigerotor77W

    Tigerotor77W LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Are you referring to a 277B or 277C? (BIG difference!)

    The C-series cab is far superior to the ASV's, but that also means there's more fancy gizmos (namely, electronics) -- which could be a bad thing if any of them decide to stop working. The UCs are roughly the same; Cat's added some of their own changes with the C-series UCs, but in most definitions the two share a very similar base. The ASV will be narrower and possibly feel better balanced (no load) than the Cat, and will also offer better rear visibility and lower ground pressure. From a productivity standpoint, I think the ASV will win (by a small margin) in tighter conditions; the Cat, being heavier, will probably push a bit better. Cat uses planetary final drives in the C-series; not sure if that's the case with the SR-80 or not off the top of my head.

    If you're referring to the B-series, that's a whole 'nother story.
     
  7. nedly05

    nedly05 LawnSite Senior Member
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    If I went Cat it would be the 277C. Doesnt the B series have an extra roller on the top toward the front of the machine?
     
  8. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
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    Avoid the 277B, those were the undercarriages that gave Caterpillar a bad name.
     
  9. Tigerotor77W

    Tigerotor77W LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Yeah. The 267B and 277B have a carrier roller and have more of a trapezoidal track routing than the 277C, whose UC is much more triangular.
     
  10. talus

    talus LawnSite Senior Member
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    Yes, but they have lower ground pressure that anything else I believe. I hear they can almost walk on water. No, it wasn't from a Cat salesman either.:laugh:
     

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