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Doing it yourself

Discussion in '<a href=http://www.plowsite.com target=_blank ?>Sn' started by Alan, Oct 2, 2000.

  1. Alan

    Alan Member
    Posts: 1,185

    How many others on here get into building or modifying their own equipment? I do a lot of my own, several factors involved, usually it's cheaper, most of the time it's better, I can have just what I want instead of a generic "Universal fit" (usually doesn't), and I enjoy doing it.

    I'm not really sure just how much I save, I don't count my labor as I try to do things in slack times. Maybe that's foolish of me but I'd rather be working on something rather than sitting around.

    I'm in the final stages of a central hydraulic install on my "big" truck (5500 GMC). Can't say it has been easy but I'm sure it would have been several thousand dollars worth of shop time otherwise. I tend to be a perfectionist, so what I've done is a lot more "neat" than a shop job as well.

  2. GeoffDiamond

    GeoffDiamond LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Maine
    Posts: 1,651

    Hey, in have built and installed 4 pull plows now. I think they work just as good as daniels, and a lot less money.

  3. cat320

    cat320 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 822

    Alan is it worth putting in a central hydraulic system even in like F350-550? What bennifits make it worth the extra time and money?verses evrthing seperate.
  4. snow

    snow Guest
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    alan has had a lot of years in fabrication and from what he's told me, he's made- two trailers for his equipment, central hydraulics on a f350 (no longer in use), a hydraulic system for a jd tractor so he can use a broom, snowblower,etc , the central hydraulics on the 5500, and probably more things than he can count.chuck has also made some neat little things, like the v-plow for his wheelhorse tractor. once i get better at welding, i'm gonna buy a small stick welder and try out some idea for plowing sidewalks. for now, i'm gonna try and convince a friend to customize a snowplow in his shop. <b>hey alan, look what i found, it's your truck when its done(well, here it is)</b><img src=""><p>While on the topic of fabrication, BRl is looking for an attachment for his Wright Stander mower, maybe chuck or alan could give him a hand with ideas and stuff. cat320- a central hydraulic system is good for certain things, using a sander for instance, you can control the conveyor speed, and the speed of the spinner with a knob. a self contained one has one speed for both. the advantage w/ the better controlled sander might be if you're applying magic, and only using a little, you could slow down the conveyor and speed up the spinner.

    p.s- Alan, ever since you've been building the 5500, you've got me stuck on that style, my friend has an old C60. I'm gonna see if its under 26k, and see if i can buy it and use it to plow with. maybe i can get it to look like that photo about, but w/ an undertailgate spreader.
  5. Alan

    Alan Member
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    cat320, I think central hyd is the way to go. This will be the second truck I've put a system in. The first was an F-350, twin piston, telescopic, single acting hoist and undertailgate spreader. This one will run the whole shooting match, dump hoist, spreader and plow. With the big pump you get fast action on the dump hoist. You can run either an undertailgate spreader or a vee box (it the box is set up right) and get seperate control of spinner and conveyor speed. I'll actually ahve to put flow restrictors in the plow lines to keep them down to a reasonable operating speed. I'm running a belt drive pump with electric clutch, which I think is superior to a PTO driven pump. With PTO pump you have no hydraulics with teh clutch disengaged. As a result you have to drop into neutral, raise the plow, shift back into gear and back away. With the belt pump you have plow control at all times, as well as the ability to pull up to the end of a driveway and sit there with the spreader running to put down a little extra material at that point. I think the new SD Fords have the ability to have a "live" PTO off the automatic transmission
  6. cat320

    cat320 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 822

    Thanks for the info guys.Just being curious what would this cost to do on a truck and would you have to be very, very good with knowing hydraulics to get it to work.I always wanted to buy and r model mack and have this type of system for it.just havn't found the right truck at the right price yet.please if you have any pics of your handy work i would love to see them.
  7. diggerman

    diggerman LawnSite Senior Member
    from Iowa
    Posts: 702

    I build most all of my mounts for my 11ft plows. I am going to build two more this year one for a RD688 and the other for my CH612.I have one RD I have already done,so for most of these I will just copy.All the large plow frames we make have a quick hook pins for the blade and the tops fold down to allow the hood to tip.We just use electric pumps that mount to the bumper which is part of the plow, then in the summer we can remove the plow as a unit put the chrome bumper back on and restore the truck to it original weight.
  8. cat320

    cat320 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 822

    Diggerman do you have any pics of your plowset ups and why do you do electric and not central hydralic system?
  9. snow

    snow Guest
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    i see your from MA. If you buy the Big Truck and Equipment trader, you should be able to find a mack model R. also, check to see when local towns or the Mass dot have auctions. I just got a booklet in the mail for the NYS thruway authority auction, which is going to be held on monday october 16th. they have 3 working mack model r's for sale, and 4 nonworking ones for sale. check with alan about doing a central hydraulic system. Also, the reason diggerman put the electric pumps on are so he can take them off in the summer, and he wouldn't have to install a central hydraulic system.

  10. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 849

    You can check out the V plow here. I hope to make it more versatile. I have so many ideas, and not enough time to tinker with them all. BRL, I could easily design something for the stand on machines to push or move snow. The only problem I can forsee, is loading them onto a truck and getting them around during a storm.

    A good example of a versatile machine is a Gravely. I mean the 50's and 60's models. Back then the machine was basically a power unit. A motor on wheels, with a 4 speed looking transmission. Attachments included sickle bar mowers for brush, pan cutters for mowing, dirt plows, snow blowers, and more. Maybe you can see where I'm headed here.... I'm not saying any more! :x

    V plow:


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