Dont seal it???????????????????

Discussion in 'Seal Coating Forum' started by 21eagle, Sep 17, 2010.

  1. MarcSmith

    MarcSmith LawnSite Fanatic
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    my question....and I have a pavers as a drive. so no more asphalt for me...

    I never see the DOT sealing roads....so why do homeowners need to seal their drives?

    educate me...
     
  2. salopez

    salopez LawnSite Senior Member
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    Well i never see homeowners re-paving every 5-8 years.... so there you go.

    but notice the DOT does crack fill every year...
     
  3. punt66

    punt66 LawnSite Fanatic
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    exactly. Drives last 20 years or more. If they sealed every year they could just repave. I would rather have a new driveway.
     
  4. MarcSmith

    MarcSmith LawnSite Fanatic
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    so the amount of traffic on a road has nothing to do with the reason for repavaing?

    does the DOT use a different formulation of asphalt?

    my street has not been paved in 10 years...
    and I can drive on other asphalt roads of the same vintage which have not been repaved
     
  5. punt66

    punt66 LawnSite Fanatic
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    there are different mixes for driveway and DOT. DOT does not seal roadways. Cracks? YES. But half of those sealed cracks fail quickly anyway.
     
  6. MarcSmith

    MarcSmith LawnSite Fanatic
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    so, whynot use the dot version of asphalt for your driveway?
     
  7. punt66

    punt66 LawnSite Fanatic
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    because most wont pay for it. They want the cheapest price. Dot uses 2 layers. The "base" layer is heavy with stone and then on top of that is the road mix. Most driveway contracters dont want to come back and pave twice and people want the cheapest price. If a driveway base was installed correctly and you put 2 1 1/2" layers min. It would be a lifetime drive.
     
  8. soloscaperman

    soloscaperman LawnSite Gold Member
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    Re sealing in CT is a must! If your snow plowing and throwing sand and salt it won't last that long. Re sealing is very cheap. There is a famous guy in CT name Stutz seal coating. A normal driveway is about $100. He sprays it and has 3 mexicans and is in and out under 30 min! Some of my customers have him and they spend around $85-$300 for the windy long driveways every 2-3 years.

    Most of customers have new homes on a new street and there fresh driveway is only in warranty if it gets seal coated if not it voids the warranty.

    My driveway is 20 years old and is showing crakes and wearing from washing my stuff all the time and of course parking my heavy truck.

    Most driveways that my clients cost around 3K-10K to have it re paved.
     
  9. punt66

    punt66 LawnSite Fanatic
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    your drive is near the end of its lifespan. Think about it. Roadways do not get sealed. On roads are very heavy traffic including trucks weighing up tp 80,000 lbs.
     
  10. salopez

    salopez LawnSite Senior Member
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    this is not an apples to apples discussion....

    roads are 6-10 inches thick depending on the area and the use... plus 6+ inches of base.

    a driveway is usually 4 inches of base and 3 inches of aspalt. plus rarely do people spend the money to back fill the sides. you still get ups, fedex, the water truck coming up and down your driveway. if you maintan it a driveway will last longer.

    streets in dc suck, and the city has no money. out here in MD they are currenly tar n chipping bad areas to save money on asphalt. really bad areas are getting patches...and worse re-paves. if someone did this on their home they would get alot more then 20 years out of a drive.

    lastly there is no reason to seal every year...thats bad for the asphalt. look at parking lot that has parking spaces striped...most of them have cracks where they are painted. this is due to too much moisture getting trapped. same things happen to over sealed driveways.... they crumble from moisture. 3-6 years depending on condition is what we do. we also recomend highly that you fill cracks, since they will kill a driveway quickly.
     

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