Its not fair. I was just at a major superstore. Aboout 10 aisles north of the groceries. I looked at the Ortho weed killer shelf. It included an Ortho product that included sulfentrazone, (Like Surge). And there was an Ortho product that included weed killer plus Quinclorac, (not so different from Q4). Of course Ortho Maxx already includes triclopyr. And there were a couple of battery powered hand sprayers. Cheap junk. The Black and Decker rechargeable was somewhat better--49.95. I think it holds about a gallon or two. At least I can claim," Ma'm we don't use any weed control more dangerous that what you can buy at K-mart."