Dump Trailer suggestions....

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by ron mexico75, Oct 15, 2012.

  1. ron mexico75

    ron mexico75 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,693

    So, I'm in the very early stages of looking for a dump trailer. To be mainly used for moving mulch, top soil and leaf removal jobs down the road as I grow. Would want a leaf vac as well before getting into that but I just wanted to put that out there to maybe help with suggestions being given.

    I have seen a few on craigslist as well as some new ones. Is this something that is better off being purchased new regardless? Or, is a used one ok as long as you know what you're looking at and what to look for?

    Is there a big difference between a 10 fott and a 12 foot versus the obvious? Is one a lot better then the other kind of like a 6' ft pickup bed versus an 8' bed?

    What are some of the good makers? I have seen ones made by Bri-Mar.

    What exactly should I be looking for as far as a battery type, ramps, gate style, tire type/size? I have also seen some that have 2 hydro lifts versus just one.

    Just as an example, here are 2 that I have seen recently;

    This is for a NEW one.......



    ON SALE THIS MONTH ONLY!! $5495.00 REG PRICE $5895.00
    ONLY 1 AT THIS PRICE

    TILMAN DUMP
    DT6812-12LPE 3T

    STANDARD EQUIPEMENT
     EMPTY WEIGHT 3000LBS
     GVW 12000LBS
     5" TUBE MAIN FRAME RAILS
     11 GAUGE FLOOR
     21" FIXED SIDES (14 GAUGE)
     DIAMOND PLATE FENDERS
     FULL HEIGHT STAKE POCKETS (11)
     FULL LENGTH RUB RAIL
     2-5/16" COUPLER
     5K TOP WIND JACK WITH FOOT
     HYDRAULIC PUMP WITH 15' REMOTE
     LOCKABLE BATTERY BOX W/GAS SHOCK
     7-WAY RV PLUG
     BREAKAWAY SWITCH
     LED LIGHTS
     EZ LUBE AXLES
     ELECTRIC BRAKES ON BOTH AXLES
     TIRE/WHEELS ST235/80R 16E
    OPTIONS ON THIS UNIT INCLUDE

     BARNDOOR COMBO GATE
     BATTERY (27-CYCLE MARINE)
     RAMPS AND HARDWARE


    We carry a full line of Well-Bilt(built in house),Haulmark,Look,Pace,bBig Tex and Venture boat trailers.
    We are full service and do in house warranty,state inspection on all makes and models.
    We can custom build or add on to your existing trailer.

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    This is one that is USED.......


    im selling a 2000 dump trailer 10,000 pound bmar 6x10 works great. Only reason im selling is because i dont use it anymore . asking 3,700.

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  2. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,284

    Get the largest one you can afford. I started with a 6x10 and ran out of room so fast. Now have a 7x14 and still think I should've gone with the 16 footer. Either way I still think that if you can scrounge up more money for the larger you'll be happier. Then if you ever need to haul a larger piece of equipment it will fit. Also my 6x10 could get about 5-6 yards of mulch with side boards. 14 ft has done 10 with room for more. Also on large landscape maintenance jobs the trimmings and edgings would fill that 10 footer to the edge. 14ft has also enabled me to carry different materials at once with easy loading for the skid steer driver at the nursery or loading yard. I created a divider to have two 7ft sections.

    Scissor lifts are better but the dual cylinders are fine. My 14 ft only came with the scissor lift or single cylinder at the front which according to my manufactuer (Sure-Trac) is the strongest.

    Then there is power up/power down or power up/gravity down. Both of mine have been gravity down and I like that the going down is much quicker and doesn't use the battery to do so. Also if the batter should die the body will still come down with gravity down.

    Get EVERYTHING. Multi function gate, ramps, adjustable coupler, etc...

    There are also drop axle vs straight axle. Drop axle is easier equipment loading whereas I went with the straight axle to easily load my wheelbarrows with mulch/stone/topsoil. There are deck overs too that are much higher for easier "pile" dumping and wheelbarrow loading but not so equipment friendly. Some deck overs have drop down sides for pallet loading. I almost bit on a 14ft deck over with drop down sides but the price was about $2k more than the one I picked up!!

    Again I'd rather be "Wow I have a lot of space leftover" vs. needing to make 2trips. Just my thoughts.

    As a side note my 14footer was a 14k GVWR with a 10,400lb capacity. I had to have the factory send me a derated label to 13,200 because with my dually I would have been over 26k combinded needing a CDL which I do not possess. Again I have a new certification label not a registration adjustment.

    Good luck in the search!
     
  3. KrayzKajun

    KrayzKajun LawnSite Fanatic
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    Get the biggest you can afford and pull. I had a 12fter sold it a week after i bought it. Had a 16' gooseneck, used for about 8mnths then sold it buy my 18' dual tandem gooseneck. I actually have a load of 12yds of soil in it right now. With a smaller trailer i would have spent all day hauling soil.
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  4. ron mexico75

    ron mexico75 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,693

    Well some great replies really appreciate those details responses. Gives me some things to think about.

    I guess what you all are saying is look further into the future then just short-term. I'm just a small single operation. However I guess since I might be spending thousands of dollars I should get something that's going to last a while.

    So I guess with all those specifics to think about it would be better to buy new versus used?
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  5. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    I'm looking too and will probably go used just to save on the price of new. For the most part its a trailer and not much can go wrong like a used truck vs new
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  6. ParkWelding

    ParkWelding LawnSite Member
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    Yup, biggest you can afford, and that your truck will pull. If I had to do it again, I'd buy a deck over that was at least 14', preferably 16'. Then built my own ramps ( longer ) to load equipment easier. I thought I would be 90% hauling equipment/10% hauling material. It ended up the opposite and it sucks having the bed height the same or lower than your wheelbarrows, and not being able to dump a good pile.

    Or just have two....
     
  7. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,284

    I feel the same way. The deck over is VERY multipurpose. I'd like a dump truck or insert. That way one is high and one is lower. Easier said than done quite yet.
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  8. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
    Posts: 3,594

    My dump trailer is sitting. My S/A dump gets used and Im getting a 1 ton next year so I think I might sell the Load Trail. Park, You still want it?
     
  9. PerfectEarth

    PerfectEarth LawnSite Bronze Member
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    That Tillman looks exactly like my Bri-mar!! Dump trailers are the best things ever. All landscapers should have one.

    Nothing to add that others have not said. Get 12' long at least, stay away from the weak single cylinder lifts, stick with dual or scissor lift.... something low profile (easy to work out of)... get built-in ramps

    And make sure you can haul it and STOP it! If getting one over 10,000 lbs GVWR, watch that you're not towing it with anything that in combo pushes you over 26,000 GCWR... that's CDL territory- I had to get one with my 19,000 lb F550 and a 12,000 GVWR Bri-mar.... if I had got an even 10,000 lb trailer, I'd have been fine, but I don't regret it at all.
     
  10. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    PerfectEarth, did you do the CDL with your truck & trailer combo? Or did you get it before the purchase? Contemplating just doing it so if I wanted to step into a 450-550 with the dump trailer I could.
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