Durability for a poorly designed college campus...

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by turf4kansas, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. LawnMastersTx

    LawnMastersTx LawnSite Member
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    The problem that we have with contractors is that there are so many of them working around campus we are unable to track them all in my department. We rarely receive notice of work being performed on campus if it will take a day to complete. We usually find out work has been done when I receive an alert of a break. Also the heavy equipment on campus due to all the construction. A semi delivering material to a site goes over the curb and crushes a 3/4 inch line, natural gas leak testers drill a hole in concrete parking lot and happen to drill right through our wires in a sleeve, contractor parking in the grass by a project (without landscape permission), I can keep going with stories and that is just with contractors, not including students, tailgaters, drunks, homeless people......


    Next time you are in town let me know and I will give you a tour of the campus irrigation. We have a few things on campus that you will never see anywhere else.
     
  2. 1idejim

    1idejim LawnSite Fanatic
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    I can understand that you are the head of your dept. and not the entire campus but many facilities have a constant stream of ongoing projects which they are able to manage without having the damage that you speak of. I believe that you should crunch some damage prevention data, present it to your boss's. There is no excuse for constant damage to the facilities infrastructure. You should not tolarate reckless damage in your areas of responsability.

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  3. LawnMastersTx

    LawnMastersTx LawnSite Member
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    I agree with you whole hearty on not tolerating their reckless damage on campus. We bill the contractors for any damage done and do our best to keep an eye on them. It would be nice if we could go after repeat offenders with a citation for willful destruction of University property, well I may try that on a certain delivery company.

    The offer to visit the campus is open to any of you guys. We hope to give a tour during IA this year since it will be in Austin. I am open to criticism and input, I am not prideful to think that I know everything out there.
     
  4. txirrigation

    txirrigation LawnSite Senior Member
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    I plead the 5th. Just kidding, as an installer it is always interesting to watch my guys when a contractor drives his shinny truck/tractor/etc. over brand new irrigation work. You can see the guys deflate, especially when the mainlines are 3"+. Truth be told, if the system is installed per spec, the irrigation pipe should have 18" cover, and 6" of select fill over pipe. That would keep trucks, etc from braking pipes.
     
  5. 1idejim

    1idejim LawnSite Fanatic
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    There should be no excuse that a facility the size of UT lack a damage prevention dept.

    No work should be sched. without a utility callout and clearance. Same as a one call in public domains.

    When not providing locates, infrastructure as-builts and surveys should be performed, maps drawn and logged.

    The dept. would also provide inspections.

    Contractors should be required to submit pics of their work with each billing.

    If everyone works together a more productive experience will be had by all.
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  6. TX Easymoney

    TX Easymoney LawnSite Platinum Member
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    My neighbirs wife is high up at UT in the building, construction dept at UT...I'll ask her the question...i gotta go take a look on campus, they have got some impressive rainwater recycling there on campus...

    I can tell y'all why the construction guys keep hitting stuff...they are too busy watchen the girls...surprised anything gets done down there.
     
  7. TX Easymoney

    TX Easymoney LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Ya, just yesterday had to shoo a tree company off the center median in one of our large hoa properties...they figured, truck and trailer naturally are ok to drive there...mainline ok, valve boxes not so much... now i get to sell them on aeration to fix the compaction problem:drinkup:
     
  8. txirrigation

    txirrigation LawnSite Senior Member
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    Check out the UT Belo Center, it is some pretty gnarly stuff.

    Jim- Totally agree, we always call in for the locate then double check with our own locating equipment. I have a policy that the man on the rock saw must locate all the utilities personally on site to double check the locate company. If it is a large site (cluster) I go and do a locate also. We also ask for any blue prints for the site, and older prints if something was demoed.

    Case and point, the picture I sent to you today was a locate on a private propane system for a resort. The company that was hired for the locate missed a leg of the propane line, which we would have trenched right through had we not checked. There were 8 500gal propane tanks linked together, that would have burned for a LONG time.

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  9. LawnMastersTx

    LawnMastersTx LawnSite Member
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    They are working on updating all the maps on campus and working on the communication between departments. From what I hear it has gotten better lately than before. It is just surprising what contractors try to do, but if you have ever driven on campus, tried to unload equipment, or park - you would understand more :hammerhead:

    The new Belo center has a nice rainwater collection area, but only useful if it ever rains.... On a side note, we do have another building that is just being irrigated with FIN water (AC condensation). We have reclaimed water lines throughout the campus and I hope to be able to attach irrigation systems to it within 5 years.
     
  10. txirrigation

    txirrigation LawnSite Senior Member
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    FYI, Belo center collects condensate also.
     

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