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Dwarf Burford holly problems...

Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by JShe8918, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. JShe8918

    JShe8918 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I planted 6 dwarf burford hollies three weeks ago. They looked beautiful and lustorous. Three of them started dropping leaves. The leaves falling turned brown. I have looked at them and they do have scale BUT that wouldn't cause the leaves to fall off. They turned brown and just dropped to the ground. I imediately dug one of them up to find the hole was holding water. It is a clay base. This made me think wet fet. So i dug a drainage hole in the bottom of the hole and filled it with sand and rock. Then widened the hole. I planted with good top soil and a little sand. I went back to check on the new replacements to find that they are doing the same thing. The green berries are shriveling and begining to discolor. The new plants have black spots on the leaves and scale once again. What does everyone think it may be? I will upload some photo's her in a few minutes.


    Thanks,
    Jonathan
     
  2. White Gardens

    White Gardens LawnSite Fanatic
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    Not familiar with your area, but wet feet is my first guess. We've been having major problems with holly's and other evergreens the last 4 years due to all the rain we've had.

    You did the right thing by digging holes underneath them and widening the hole. The problem now is probably shock from re-digging them.

    From my experience, it's hard to get hollys back into shape after they've deteriorated.
     
  3. JShe8918

    JShe8918 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Here is some cruddy iphone pictures. White gardens thank you for your reply. I'm still with you on the wet feet. Btw all of your stuff is gorgeous.


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  4. JShe8918

    JShe8918 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Sorry uploaded one to many pictures. The first on is a carrisa holly at another jobsite doing the same thing. And since i underbid by mistake i didn't focus on root wrap as much as i should as you can tell.
     
  5. White Gardens

    White Gardens LawnSite Fanatic
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    Without seeing a picture at distance towards the house, I would say the grade could use a bit of help. Whenever I do an install of a bed or plants I always try to make a pronounced grade away from the house to compensate for settling and natural turf building that will raise the grade of the lawn over 50+years.

    One pic showed the crawl-space vent and it looks like you've got some room to go up 3-4 inches with soil.

    The one holly you popped looked to be toast, the other ones look like they can be salvaged with a little TLC.

    Thanks for the compliment BTW. Thumbs Up I've still got some room for improvement though and every year I feel I get a bit better.
     
  6. White Gardens

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  7. JShe8918

    JShe8918 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I absolutley agree. As you can see it is almost perfectly flat. There is a small drainage area going around the base of the house. Initially i suggested a to bring in some topsoil and do some grading for better drainage however he didn't want to do that. He wanted to spend no more money than this. Well i got caught up in getting the job because it was going to be one of my best i have done. However in the midst of it i cut alot of profit and wound up with my labor cost and materials almost being what i get paid. I have a sure fire way of bidding to make a profit however they are long time family friends and i made an error in bidding. I under bid the black lava by 86 bags at $10 a pop.
     
  8. JShe8918

    JShe8918 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Yes they do get some size to them. We plan on maintaining them at about the current height, but maintain them into a hedge. However i do know the roots will continue to grow out further and further. Which could potentially get to the foundation but doubtfully. With a little root pruning on that side they will hardly grow that direction i figure.
     
  9. White Gardens

    White Gardens LawnSite Fanatic
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    I'd just run away if you can, but I know it can be touchy when you know the person.

    Nothing is going to grow very well there without throwing even a little bit of money at it.

    In the future, if price is a factor, I would drive the point home about at least establishing the beds and correcting the grade, even if means not putting down rock mulch/fabric and just hardwood mulch with no fabric.

    Then at a later time, if the HO wants to upgrade to a rock bed and better edging, then they have that option.
     
  10. JShe8918

    JShe8918 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Good point.
     

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