easy UPC question

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by Mike M, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. Mike M

    Mike M LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I am assuming a UPC device like controlscape's only controls LV transformers, and there is no way of controling specific runs/fixtures?

    Is the solution to mount multiple smaller transformers?

    Also, does anyone make a timer with a chip installed to account for changing sunrise/sunset times, DST, etc.? The only thing I see at the moment is this feature of the Controlscape.

    Thanks,

    Mike
     
  2. Mike M

    Mike M LawnSite Bronze Member
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  3. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
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    Mike-

    I know Eddie (Eden Lights) can fill you in a bunch more than I can on automation but I can tell you there are ASTRONOMICAL timers out there that will plug into xfrmrs and or wire directly to your primay power circuit. As far as timing inline on specific runs I have not heard of any 12v appliations that allow you to have this kind of control. I would be very interested if there was. For now you would need to run smaller units and control the units powering the lights. Now if you had 120v lights such as carrigae lamps or lanterns there are inline relays you can wire and designate on and off settings. Controlscape is a great unit to use, very easy to install and program and it does not require a computer interface

    Joey D.
     
  4. Mike M

    Mike M LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Thanks, Joey.

    Yeah, I was thinking maybe in the future, with the use of LED's, they'll have drivers to control the fixtures from a remote source.

    Also, which astronomical timers do you recommend?

    I hope Eddie doesn't pass up this question thinking it's a post about bar-coding. :confused:

    Mike
     
  5. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
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  6. Mike M

    Mike M LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Cool, thanks!

    I had to laugh when the second file popped up with the UPC bar code.
     
  7. sprinkler guy

    sprinkler guy LawnSite Member
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    Mike,

    Here is an option for control of individual legs of lights through an X-10 setup. I've used this a couple of times for small scenes on patios and for BBQs. The relays on the board are limited to 5 amps each, so you can't put too much on each relay.

    http://www.resconsys.com/products/relay/8 Channel.htm
     
  8. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    intermatic does make an astronomical in trans timer. We have several of them out there with ZERO probs so far. Only issue is they put the plug on the wrong side of the timer. Not a prob in most transformers that the MDL timers normally fit in but in the kichler boxes you need to pop out the timer socket inside the trans and invert it. Takes 5 min to do this and I usually do it at home the night before an install.

    They will do everything your asking for but there is no control for seperate legs or anything. It switches the trans on and off. It will calculate sunrise and sunset and allow you to program your own times as well. You can also program it day to day so if your clients want the lights on later on weekends its no issue. I get em from FOLD/SOLD and they are around half the price of the MDL timers from cast or kichler.
     
  9. Mike M

    Mike M LawnSite Bronze Member
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  10. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
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    On the UPB thread: Have you guys looked at Simply Automated UPB controls?

    I know controlscape is marketing directly to the landscape lighting industry but I have some of their units here and I am not very impressed by the fit and finish. The units just look very cheap and I wouldn't put them in my client's homes.

    Simply Automated on the other hand has a large array of components and the modules are quite nice. They are available in a wide range of colours to match decor and existing controls. I am just starting to use these and the clients are quite impressed. I just got my first 'whole home' retrofit project (using HAI UPB system) which should be a blast.

    Any experience you might have had with Simply Automated (good or bad) would be appreciated.
     

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