Echo BRD-280 Bed Redefiner

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by kenny s, Mar 21, 2009.

  1. kenny s

    kenny s LawnSite Member
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    Does anyone own an Echo BRD-280 Bed Re-definer and if so, how does it work, and do you recommend it? I cannot spend thousands of $$ on the big bed redefiners like Little Wonders for instance, but this BRD 280 seems to be a good purchase and a great time and labor saver. Need input. Thank you.
    Kenny s.
  2. ilc79

    ilc79 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 177

    Kenny search this there are already post on this i dont like it i have one and would like to have my 700 dollars back you have to clean out behind it to me it only works in perfect conditions. thats my opinion
  3. ALC-GregH

    ALC-GregH LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
    Posts: 7,053

    If you do a search, you'll find threads on these.

    Also, the Little Wonders, Blue Birds and others are for MAKING new beds, not redefining them. I'm sure it can be used as that but who wants to drag that thing around if your just touching up? The Echo redefiner works great, is VERY fast to get the job done of "redefining" the edge only. It is not intended to "cut in" new beds.

    I'm using my pas-265 and it worked great on my place. All I did was install the cutting bit and I'm waiting for the large protective shield to come in. Bam, $150 and I have a bed redefiner. :usflag:
  4. kenny s

    kenny s LawnSite Member
    Posts: 85

    ilc79 and Alc-Greg H,
    Thank you both for replyiung so quickly to my inquiry about the BRD-280. I am in need of a unit like this to redefine, (not cut new) beds, and I saw this video on this site this morning and said, "man this is just what I need)!! I do it the old way, with an flat ice scaper or short handled flat shovel and I am sick and tired of breaking my back and taking all the time to do it this way. I called my dealer right after viewing the video and asked him about it. He said they have become VERY POPULAR, and there is a back log of orders for them, and it is hard to get right now. I am going to start working in a week and I redefine all the beds at my acct's in the spring clean up. I am going to call him back and see if there is any way to get one. Thanks to the both of you for you input, I apreciate it. :usflag:
    Kenny s.
  5. ambersLawnmowing

    ambersLawnmowing LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 333

    Pro's= Saves a bunch of time
    less bending over
    always more fun doing it with something with an engine rather then you foot and shovel
    lotsof power

    Con's= Weighs a ton
    I dont like the balance of it
    Replacement blades are about $90
  6. CCC52

    CCC52 LawnSite Member
    from Zone 5
    Posts: 39

    Neat tool but the price seems a bit high for my tastes and ALC-GregH's idea of converting an existing tool seems a better option. I see the market for the tool, ideal for those who simply can't edge a bed to at least maintain an existing edge. Probably great for really expansive commercial properties where the edge doesn't get much scrutiny.

    That said, I make alot of money on perfect hand-cut edges so the time spent is just more money. To redefine over the season a little touch-up with a string trimmer works good if done at low rpm and paying attention to detail. On mowing accounts I just add it to my trimming chores (not something I'd ask of an unsupervised crew member unless I'd seen they were capable, things can get ugly!). For areas that don't hold an edge well an inverted sod lifter makes quick work of redefining an edge (helps to have a second person for clean up).
    [​IMG] (Under $100 and comes in handy for it's intended use as well)

    Seems to me with the Echo tool any live grass cut from the edge would be shot up into the bed? That might lead to some weeding issues down the line.

    I know it's not practical for everyone but keeping the edges shaped up every few cuts with some delicate trimmer use works well for me. JMHO, I like the concept but not the price.
  7. nobagger

    nobagger LawnSite Gold Member
    from Pa
    Posts: 3,065

    Use the search feature and find my review on it. I was able to use it last week.
  8. Daily Lawn/Landscape

    Daily Lawn/Landscape LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 694

    All I can say is get a demo unit and decide for yourself. I had a unit for 2 wks and I opted not to buy one. They have a great concept, it just needs some fine tuning. The conditions have to be perfect, and when it is it works great. But when it's not you would be better off fishing.

  9. kenny s

    kenny s LawnSite Member
    Posts: 85

    When you say "perfect conditions", what exactly do you mean? I can understand if there are some rocks that might be encountered or a root, etc., but if the majority of the redefining edging can be done with this machine in the spring clean up, and you only have to deal with taking a straight shovel or ice scraper to a few spots, in my opinion, it is still worth having it and saving all that time and back bending labor. Was it as heavy as some have said? I would imagine some weight in the head is what you need to help hold it in the dirt along the edge. If if is light, it may bounce around alot more. What is your opinion, considering you have used one?
    kenny s
  10. tallimeca

    tallimeca LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,229

    first, understand, it's for cleaning up existing edges......not cutting new ones.

    I brought one home and demoed one before I pushed them on my customers.

    My house usually takes me an hour to do by hand start to finish.

    I was done in 5 minutes with the BRD unit. It's actually still a little wet out and guys aren't really even out working, but it still worked great. I was impressed to be honest. I'd have no issue selling one to one of my customers and worrying about them not liking it.

    There will always be a situation where it may not work as good as it did on another job.

    I tried to cut new edges with it and it would. The problem is it's not designed to get rid of that much debris so it just piles up and falls back in the trench. Plus if there's decent size rocks, they can get jammed between the blade and the housing. I like to put it through a test it's sure to see in the field.

    Try may like it, you may not. Not everyone likes the same things. They are selling so well they are already on a 2 week back order.

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