You can't tell me that the reason these auto makers are losing money is because it cost to much to build auto's. They have plenty of profit worked into prices. Maybe if they would lower their MSRP's they might sell more product and make some money. There is more steel put into a single wide Mobile home and they can be purchased cheaper then many auto's. Believe me if the economy was that bad then the auto manufacturer would lower their prices. They must think it is doing ok to keep prices up. I remember when they did believe the sky was falling and every manufacturer on earth had 0% financing and rebates out the yingyang. Interest rates have went up 6 times recently because things are on the rise. The real truth is Toyota etc. are hurting sales from Ford etc. They now have their 1/2, 3/4 ton truck lines that are hurting sales on the big 4. Just like when people were scared into building fall out bunkers. They soon found out the world was not ending and lived many prospered years. I repeat! Do not believe everything you hear! Look into your own wallet and tell me times are tough. Remember the stories of how families were considered rich if they owned 2 cars and had a TV, powered clothes washing machine, etc. Sure there a millions of americans over spending, but it's by choice and if they thought the sky was falling they would buy a 150grand house instead of a 300grand house. Man imagine having to settle for a 150 grand home. By the way, if the sky was falling then the 300 grand homes would be 150 grand. New neighborhoods are popping up all over the place and these are not your average home either. If things were so bad then these neighborhoods wouldn't be putting in lakes and golf coerces. How many times do you see the take out restaurants delivering food around town. I spent $50 on take out tonight and I'm sure many americans had the luxury of ordering out tonight. Things are really bad though. Sorry for the rant, but we have it easy compared to our parents generation and sitting around complaining is a slap in their face.