Employee nightmares!!!

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by McKeeLand, Jul 4, 2007.

  1. McKeeLand

    McKeeLand LawnSite Senior Member
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    This has been the worst year i think ever for employees for us. We have gone through four guys in the past 2 weeks. one guy begged us to hire him and after 6 hours said this was not for him and quit. and the response you get from the paper are priceless. i cant believe how many people answer an add that says 2-3 years experience required and then proceed to ask me "what is hardscaping" or even better "what's a paver":hammerhead: it is so hard to find good help that can lay pavers. any tips from you guys out there or finding good installers?
     
  2. cedarcroft

    cedarcroft LawnSite Senior Member
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    to find a GOOD installer, you have to TRAIN a BAD installer. Thats the only way.
     
  3. Mike33

    Mike33 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    My company name is Bobcat Landscaping Service. 90% of people calling me for a job first statement is " i can run a bobcat " My responce is thats after a few years of rake and shovel i run the bobcat, click goes the phone. Good luck to you.
    Mike
     
  4. McKeeLand

    McKeeLand LawnSite Senior Member
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    at this point i would settle for a bad installer, at least he has some knowledge.
     
  5. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
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    I have been lucky with that part of business. One guy has been with me for close to 20 yrs, another one (foreman) 12 yrs, 10 yrs another, 4 yrs and so on. I treat my guys well, pay them well, listen to them, pay them for holidays. I bought my foreman a car in 2002, and then a 3/4 ton ford last year. I give cash bonuses at end of year. Don't forget these are the guys who are putting bread on your table, or gas in your car, whatever.
     
  6. McKeeLand

    McKeeLand LawnSite Senior Member
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    i would love to find guys that i can invest in like that. i know it is an area that i need to invest more time in finding and retaining qualified employees. i just can never seem to find someone that i feel i will get back the investment. i have had good guys that work with me for along time, but it never seems that they grow, they just stay the same after a point. this is where i need to work harder to get more out of them and keep them motivated i guess.
     
  7. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
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    Find some LEGAL foreign help.

    I have a foreign workforce. I have not had 1 guy late for work or no show all year. I have had ZERO broken tools or equipment repairs because of them. Honestly, my employees are the smoothest part of my business.

    Besides the colleges kids i hire for summer, i have no interest in employing Americans.
     
  8. lifetree

    lifetree LawnSite Fanatic
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    This may be true ... but it's hilarious to see it in writing !!
     
  9. Mike33

    Mike33 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I've tried that style with one of mine but not sure if its really working. I do belive and respect your concept though.
    Mike
     
  10. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
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    Oh and something else I forgot to mention is the age of the group, mostly "old school" guys, only one in his twenties. Nobody likes to work with a shovel in their hands all day or sweating with a wheelbarrow. Times are changing and we have all the right tools to make this a somewhat easier trade then what it was in the eighties, or nineties.
     

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