Here's a thread that should be in the next issue of TURF Magazine; What's with all of the damm certification programs out there? Is anyone else getting sick of it? If I want to install Pavers I should be certified with the ICPI... If I want to install Irrigation, I should get a CIC certification from the IA AND....if I want to install Raibird products I should get certified with Rainbird If I want to install LV Lighting, I should get certified by the NILLA If I want to install retaining walls, I should get certified by both the ICPI and the NCMA If I want to install putting greens, I should to get certified by AllPro or PuttingGreensTurf or whoever else sells the stuff If I want to do general landscaping, I should get certified with the ALCO And even then, I need to decide whether to be a CLT or a CLP If I want to maintain landscapes, I should get a certification from the PLCAA If I want to design landscapes, I should get certified by the APLD If I want to install ponds and water features, I should get certified by Aquascapes Designs I mean, GIVE ME A FREAKIN' BREAK! What's with the miriad of the certifications these days??? I used to consider getting certified in some things. But now it's just become a big joke. I am sure there is some value to taking the classes and getting certified. But I bet the biggest "value" is in the pocket books of the organizations who are creating these "certification" programs. They are raking in the dough , making everyone think you need to be certified in order for people to recognize you as a legitimate contractor.