EPA did it again

Discussion in 'Mechanic and Repair' started by Dwittbecker, Mar 21, 2014.

  1. Dwittbecker

    Dwittbecker LawnSite Member
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    Just found out from my dealer that all the echo redmax shindawa and I'm Sure stihl is to. There brands of oil are now going to come in 2.5 gallon mix instead of 2 gallon. Know going to have to mix all my fuel mix in 5 gallon can then poor into my 2 gallon cans. As if the EPA hasn't done enough stupid things. If it's not broke don't fix it.
     
  2. ricky86

    ricky86 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Stihl has always had both (2 gal and 2.5), regardless if your dealer carried them or not. It's available in one gallon jugs also.
    Why is your dealer blaming the EPA?
     
  3. WenzelOSLLC

    WenzelOSLLC LawnSite Senior Member
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    Just mix it heavy on the oil. That's what I've been doing forever.
     
  4. WenzelOSLLC

    WenzelOSLLC LawnSite Senior Member
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    And explain where the epa comes in..
     
  5. Dwittbecker

    Dwittbecker LawnSite Member
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    No I'm blaming the EPA any time any changes are mad to fuel or oil EPA has a hand in it one way or another. They are no longer making 2 gallon mix. It's not that my dealer is no longer going to have 2 gallon mix. Seems odd that they would just quit making it if the EPA wasn't forcing it.
     
  6. ricky86

    ricky86 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    The government is here only to help us LOL. But..... we need the EPA. Big business will slowly kill us if left to their on devices. Now.... get rid of the IRS. I'm for that. ( and 3/4 of the senators, congressmen etc etc)
     
  7. WenzelOSLLC

    WenzelOSLLC LawnSite Senior Member
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    I don't see why the EPA would mandate requiring a 2.5 vs 2 gallon mix. Sounds more like a marketing thing by the manufacturers.
     
  8. ricky86

    ricky86 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Or a dealer that's..... shall we say, FOS
     
  9. newz7151

    newz7151 LawnSite Silver Member
    from Tejas
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    ? Where have you been buying 2 gallon mix? Pretty sure we only stock a 1 gal (2.6oz) and 2.5 gallon (6.4oz) bottle size. If you are upset about it, then just use 2 of the 1 gallon mix bottles per can in your 2 gallon cans. :dizzy:
     
  10. dutch1

    dutch1 LawnSite Silver Member
    from Jayhawk
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    About 10 years ago I started using only the 1 gallon jugs of premium Echo, Shindiawa, or Stihl 2stroke oil. I use only a 1 gallon mix can in my repair shop and after a couple of refills, the inconvenience of messing around with dirty or misplaced measuring cups, I purchased an Opti-2 pump(Opti-2 mix is 100:1). According to Opti, 2 strokes of the pump puts out the proper amount of oil(1.8 oz) for a 100:1 mix. That equates to .9 oz per stroke of the pump or 2.7 oz for 3 strokes--I don't mind being a bit on the rich side anyway.

    Unless you have a problem counting to 3(2.7 oz), 6(5.4 oz) or 7(6.3 oz), that should cover the small container( 1 gal, 2 gal or 2.5 gal) issue. If you're concerned about being .1 oz short on the 2.5 gal mix, add a tad more. I've checked the accuracy of the pump 3 or 4 times and it's right on.

    May not work for everyone's situation but it works for me. In addition, gallon jugs are less expensive and you don't have the little bottles/caps hanging around.

    Just a solution you may want to consider.

    http://opti2-4.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29799
     

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