EPA emissions requirements and Ethanol fuel. How much of your equipment is ruined?

Discussion in 'Alternative Fuel Forum' started by JDiepstra, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. whoopassonthebluegrass

    whoopassonthebluegrass LawnSite Platinum Member
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    This is not heresay. There was an article in ?Landscape Digest? (a Moose River mag) where they were discussing the threat of 15% ethanol. It was in that article where a guy down in the south had been testing ethanol fuel for years - and found wildly erratic percentages (from 5-20%). I'm too lazy to look up the article, but that really struck me when I read it and I've retained it since.
     
  2. RussellB

    RussellB LawnSite Fanatic
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    I'v seen several commercials for a TV show where they supposedly go out hunting for Bigfoot after reports of numerous sitings. I am now afraid to venture into the woods. That said, I have never experienced any issues with ethanol fuels.
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  3. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
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    There is something you can do to help your larger equipment like mowers. Part of the problem with ethanol enhanced fuels is it eats rubber. If you're having a problem with it eating your fuel lines you can do one of 2 things.

    1: Buy high quality, American made, fuel injection hose. These hoses are made to resist the alcohol. They do a much better job of it than a regular hose and a much better job than a Chinese manufactured hose.

    2: You can use an even better hose than that though. I've been using EFI nylon fuel line when I can. It is a hard nylon tubing. It's inside size is .275" or slightly larger than 1/4". You have to heat it up to bend it into the shape you want and to slip it over fuel fittings. I've had no failures of this line so far and it's good for at least 20 years or so. You can buy it here: http://www.ronmorrisperformance.com...130&Category_Code=Fuel_Fittings_and_Fuel_Line
     
  4. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
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    C'mon small engine manufacturers, get your technology up to date renewable fuels aren't going away.
     
  5. CL&T

    CL&T LawnSite Senior Member
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    It's not just a matter of making fuel system components resistant to ethanol, that can be done. It's the separation and water absorption that occurs in ethanol fuel that is causing damage also and that is not something that any vehicle or equipment manufacturer can do anything about. You can't make an engine run on water and crap. The only way to solve this is to vote the clowns out of office. Then this renewable fuel nonsense will go away.
     
  6. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
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    Renewable fuel isn't going anywhere. We can vote these clowns out and another set of clowns gets in. America doesn't have the balls to put someone into office that doesn't think like the rest of the clowns.

    I can tell you right now the choice is coming down to Romney or Obama. They're one in the same. There might be slight differences in how they destroy America but just as sure as the day is long, they will both do the wrong thing.
     
  7. CL&T

    CL&T LawnSite Senior Member
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    Sadly you make a good point.
     
  8. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
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    Yes you can, your ignorance clearly shows.
    Lots of vehicles out these days that run on E-85. And at least that 'crap' is grown and harvested right here in the USA you dingdong. And although it is far from perfect, who knows what technologies it may segway into. I state again, renewables are not going away, they are only going advance
     
  9. CL&T

    CL&T LawnSite Senior Member
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    Yeah right. Let your Flex fuel vehicle sit for a few months with E85 in the tank and see how it runs. Ethanol is crap. The sooner you realize that the better everyone will be. You people that are drinking the government Kool Aid need to realize that ethanol doesn't save us ANYTHING and is just another asinine program like all the rest politicians dream up to put money into their own pockets.
     
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  10. CL&T

    CL&T LawnSite Senior Member
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    And I forgot to add- remember MBTE? That garbage was added to gasoline before ethanol. Wow, this is great stuff. Really going to cut emissions. Then they found that it was seeping into ground water and contaminating it for miles around. Jackasses.
     

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