Are you using all of Manage, or are your LA's just using the estimating side? Are you using the accounting integration module as well? We ran into a road block on the maintenance side. They don't have that part of the software in place yet, and that is a integral part of our business. I'm impressed with their sales tracking capabilities, and the estimating looks good. We have created our own estimating template that is very similar to what they produced. At this point we are looking for a 1 software solution to sales/estimating/tracking/invoicing/accounting. Simple request, right? What you say regarding company size is the truth, the bigger you get the more you have to feed the monster. We are in a national peer group that meets a couple of times a year to discuss our business's. Again, if you're interested, I would like to talk off the board.