Ethics in sub work

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by bushtrimmer, Aug 5, 2005.

  1. bushtrimmer

    bushtrimmer LawnSite Senior Member
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    I'm not sure what to do about this one.
    I do some sub work for a competitor in the next county that doesn't "want to do work in my county." A couple of their customers have asked me to bid directly to them for this winter and next year. I do not have a non-compete clause with the general contractor and don't know their true intentions for my county, they may just be building business to open another location.
    They really aren't a big customer but do have the potential to be. Do I bid as asked? Do I ask the general contractor to sign a non compete with me as far as actually doing the labor?
    Any other options?
     
  2. Brianslawn

    Brianslawn LawnSite Silver Member
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    if you sign a non-compete, do it on a year to year basis and have them guarantee you X # of lawns each week. otherwise bid them for yourself.
    my 2 cents
     
  3. SHOWCASE LAWNS LLC

    SHOWCASE LAWNS LLC LawnSite Member
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    FIRST OF ALL GET A WRITTEN LETTER TO THAT EFFECT FROM THE GUY YOU SUB FOR IN THE OTHER COUNTY. DO YOU GET ALL OF THE GUYS SUB WORK ? DOES HE PAY N TIME ? DOES HE BID AGAINST YOU EVER ? IS HE A FRIEND OR IS IT JUST BUSINESS? IF NOT THERES NO PROBLEM , BID THE WORK. EVERY TIME I HAVE SHOWN AN OUTRIGHT LOYALTY TO ANOTHER CO IN THIS BIZ I HAVE GOTTEN F****D . AND I SAY THAT NICELY :rolleyes: MULTIPLE TIMES THE DIFFERENT COS I DEAL WITH BID THE SAME JOB......ALL I DO IS BID THE SUB WORK EXACTLY THE SAME AND I NEVER SHY AWAY FROM TELLING THE OTHER COMPANIES THAT IF ASKED. TOTAL HONESTY CAN BE A BIZATCH BUT I HAVE NEVER LOST OUT BY TELLING IT LIKE IT IS. IN THIS BIZ WHEN YOU ACT LIKE A NICE GUY AND DONT TAKE WHAT IS YOURS THEN PEOPLE ASSUME YOU ARE A PUSHOVER AND WILL SCREW YOU OVER IN A FLASH. THE ONLY PROMISE I MAKE IS THAT I WONT EVER DIRECTLY GO AFTER ONE OF MY GCs JOBS AND THAT ALL QUESTIONS/BILLING AND OTHER ISSUES ARE DIRECTED TO HIM. IF THE GC DOESNT PAY HIS BILL THEN ALL BETS ARE OFF AS I DONT HAVE A HOLD HARMLESS CONTRACT WITH ANYONE. AT THAT POINT I GO DIRECTLY TO MR PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE MONEY AND LET THE GC SAVE HIS OWN AZZ.
     
  4. bushtrimmer

    bushtrimmer LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 351

    I think what I was talking about with a non compete, was for the general contractor to sign that they would not do work in my county.
     
  5. olderthandirt

    olderthandirt LawnSite Platinum Member
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    TURN THE CAP BUTTON OFF
     
  6. Runner

    Runner LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 13,494

    I was going to say...nice post,..but I didn't even read it. I, as well as many others, don't bother...it isn't worth the trouble to see.
     

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