I have a turfmaster and not have experienced his problems. I think he was eating blade belts as he mentioned cutting when the deck packed smokes the belt...... I never let a deck get packed to that point. They are easy to flip and clean. In one season I have not even had to adjust the blade belt. Wet grass mulching is much improved with a simple deck mod and using the low lift blades that came on the original timemaster.
Interesting that now that he has his Walker the 30's are "almost obsolete" .
The Toro/Exmark is a part time mower. I have a 2006 Honda HRC 216 K2 that I bought brand new and for 10 years of commercial use it looks newer than my 3 year old Turfmaster. The Honda still has the original tires that still have a good amount of tread on them, where my Toro's plastic tires are smooth as a baby's but. The Toro's bag was split apart at the seams and the grab strap on the back broke within two years. I just put a new bag on my honda yesterday and the old honda bag still looked better than the 3 year old Toro's. The Honda deck doesn't have any rust on it and the original decals and stickers are still attached, but the Toros's paint is flaking off and surface rust is really starting to take hold, while all of the stickers are well on their way to peeling off. Probably the only truly tough part on the mower is the FJ180 engine. The Honda's hydrostatic transmission is 10 times better than Toro's belt driven transmission. That Honda mower will absolutely drag you up a hill when it's engaged.
725cc..Dual Hydro..FullyBaffled Mulch Kit...Fat Drive Tires (same size as a 36" Tracer)...ECS style controls and Only 2" Wider than the eXmark/Toro 30"s.
That's what I'm talkin' about. I would much rather have that. I've posted on here before that I used to have a belt drive walk behind 32" that I sold. I wish I had it back.
Those scalp where the 30 won't on irregular turf , what's the wheelbase on the trim side? Look at the trim side front wheel it's like 8" in front of the discharge side. Finished cut quality-NOT. There is really no use for that mower here, a Walker 42 or a true floating 42" walk covers the same areas that mower covers. That thing is $4000 more than a turfmaster. Not everybody has puny gate issues. Customers with small lots who aren't bargain hunter typically dislike mid walks.
Wherever there is a high spot , there's also a low spot, you just missed it. So now you must trim it out, that saved you a bunch of time......like I said , cut rate mow jobs and quality have different benchmarks. What's the trim side wheel base? You keep avoiding questions.
Not sure this post is going in the right area. I currently have a Walker GHS 20 HP with at 52" deck. It is a great mower for small to mid size lawns. But I have taken on a 6 acre and a 13 acre accounts and it is just me mowing. The walker seems to be really slow, the properties are next to each other and has a little slope to it. But a ton of leaves, I need speed the catcher fills up after 3 passes. Should I move up to a faster z turn mower if so money is tight so have to buy used what would you guys recommend. Thanks for the help.
30" eXmark was 40% slower than a 21" in Real Small Areas for us. Harder to Turn Quick and Back up and Much More Double Cutting, Clumping in the Spring.
Guys always grabbed a 22156 over the 30". Every Time
30" eXmark was 40% slower than a 21" in Real Small Areas for us. Harder to Turn Quick and Back up and Much More Double Cutting, Clumping in the Spring.
Guys always grabbed a 22156 over the 30". Every Time
No it won't I have a proline 21 and it sits at home because the 30 beats it in speed so bad. Tall wet thick gets bagged with the HRC216 ultimate bagging small mower. Homeowners mowers suck , especially from toro .
Yea, not a Fan of the Toro Commercial 21"'s since they Discontinued the 22156...too heavy. If you don't know how to make the 20381's work for you, Grab Two HRX Select drives for the price of a 30"
At 190cc w/some Skill you will be able to Mulch what you're Wasting Time Bagging w/the 30".
I don't bag much with the thirty, I have a hrc 216 that out mulches the hrx's, why would I downgrade mowers. Tm 30 with kit mulches better than you know , buy one and 30 minutes with a angle grinder and you will get it. ....on second thought , probably not.
It's Heavy but going to give a Gen 2-21" Ybravo a shot this Season....has a Plastic Deck insert that claims to Eliminate Under Deck Grass Build Up. Possibly helpful for Wet Spring Mulching.
Have the Gen 1 and it's Heavy and Average as long as you remove the Bolted on Deck Lip used for creating Vacuum when Bagging
Aint the Blade its the Horses will Kill you in the Spring on that Unit.
Guys here running 30's either filling bags every 3 minutes or Side Blowing a Hella Mess Everywhere....while we just Sail through w/the 22156's or Big Walks.
Interesting Theory. I run the "Tidal Wave" blades on my 22156's which are Probably the Best Mulching Blades made for any mower Ever and even they will have problems running on 21"/ 190cc in Real Thick Stuff
Thick Wet Grass has a way of needing Horses regardless of What's Spinning if you want to Mulch Everything
Tidal Wave blade, link part number. Regardless of blade, the grass has to have a easy exit that distributes evenly and deal with with negative and positive pressure changes under the deck as it packs. If the air moves in and out easily under those conditions it takes less hp to mulch ......and still cut nice , not leaving stragglers.
These...Dip is so Pronounced hard to get a Smooth Edge even on the Wavy Blade Attacment on my Mag 8000.
Transforms the Gen 2 eXmark 21"s from terrible Mulching 21" to decent and on a 22156 they can Mulch even the Wetest Thickest Spring stuff w/proper pitch and occasional second pass. The 190cc still necessary though to keep em spinning in the Worst stuff.
These...Dip is so Pronounced hard to get a Smooth Edge even on the Wavy Blade Attacment on my Mag 8000.
Transforms the Gen 2 eXmark 21"s from terrible Mulching 21" to decent and on a 22156 they can Mulch even the Wetest Thickest Spring stuff w/proper pitch and occasional second pass. The 190cc still necessary though to keep em spinning in the Worst stuff.
Exmark or toro dealer? Part number should be on top of the blade. Internet search for Tidal wave Blade yield nothing. Dealers are mostly clueless, I often know about stuff they just give me a blank stare on.
neXt time at dealers getting more. Can check. Not even sure if they Toro or eXmark branded. Fit all Gen 2 Toro/eXmark and 22156 and the SR's. Don't fit Toro Classic Prolines...will slip. Haven't bothered w/a fiX for that yet.
It is. I got both. For once Toro and eXmark went their Seperate Ways w/the 21's. eX is the Bagger Toro the Mulcher.
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