1. Missed the live Ask the Expert event?
    Not to worry. Check out the archived thread of the Q&A with Ken Hutcheson, President of U.S. Lawns, and the LawnSite community on the Franchising Forum.

    Dismiss Notice

Exmark Hydraulic oil filters$$$$$

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Pat McMahon, Sep 27, 2002.

  1. Pat McMahon

    Pat McMahon LawnSite Member
    Posts: 12

    $15 bucks each??? Are any of you guys using a more cost effective option?

    Exmark Hydro oil filter
    P/N 1-513211
    60" Lazer Z 23 HP Kaw

    Thanks for your opinions/ comments.

    Pat
     
  2. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 14,700

    Since you're only changing it once a year and there is only one filter to change I wouldn't bicker about the price. Dixie Choppers use 2 filters and the replacement oil is 30 bucks a gallon.
     
  3. Pat McMahon

    Pat McMahon LawnSite Member
    Posts: 12

    Richard, I understand what you're saying and I appreciate your reply, but I'm a bit anal about the fluids and change the hydraulic filter 2-3 times a year.

    It looks like an ordinary filter, similar to the one on my dirt bike, I was just wondering why I can purchase a filter for the bike at $4.00, but the hydraulic Exmark fillter is $15?

    Still looking for a suitable replacement.

    Thanks,
    Pat
     
  4. strickdad

    strickdad LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 544

    i think they are all high !!! i just gave 21.95 for one a month ago. (for a great dane )but we run mobil1 in the hydro so that comes out to about 22.00 a gallon
     
  5. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 14,700

    Okay then, here's the reason they cost more than a regular oil filter. They flow oil in a completely different fashion. In that I mean that a engine pushes the oil through the filter, a hydro system pulls the oil through the filter. Since the hydro manufacturers want to make sure the pumps are not starved for oil by a clogged filter the filter media isn't as dense as an automotive filter. Auto filters are in the 20 to 30 micron range, hydro filters are 40 micron and up. Since you have to have a custom filter they cost more than auto filters which are made by the millions.

    In regards to changing the hydro filter more often than the recommendation, that is a no-no. The Exmark rep said not to change the hydro filters other than at the recommended intervals. Everytime that you open the hydro system you are increasing the risk that contaminants will get into the oil.

    The next time you change the filter cut the old filter open and see what is in it. You might be suprised to see nothing.
     
  6. Green Pastures

    Green Pastures LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,457

    I don't believe it. I think it's a scam. I don't think it cost's the manufacturers 3-5 times as much to produce hydro filters as opposed to oil filters. Think about it, it's a paper or paper/fabric media that is corrugated wrapped and stuffed in a tin can. Microns/smicrons, there cant be that much of a difference in price.

    DISCLAIMER:

    The previous rant is based on opinion only and not a study in facts. I'm just a guy who thinks it's ludicrous to pay $15 for a hydro filter and $3 for a oil filter.

    Scott
     
  7. Dan1944

    Dan1944 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 146

    My 2C, I am not defending the high cost's of lawn equiptment filters at all. But how many filters a day does say fram, purolater pump out per day for a given automoblie filter versus a hydro filter for a Exmark,toro,hustler. No where in comparison, Id say, so you have to take into account the lower cost's due to higher volume or vis versa the higher cost's due to low volume.

    Like I said my 2c

    Dan the lawn care man
     
  8. Brieldo

    Brieldo LawnSite Member
    Posts: 192

    Not to set off a debate here, but filters are like tires. Do you guys think that in the case of tires, there's 100's of companies that are making the tires you drive on everyday? Nope...there's only about 5 different companies in the world that possess the rubber for these tires. They make other companies tires, ie, BFGoodrich makes Mud King radials, and then they're sold under the generic or "off-brand" name. When you get some Futura tires from Pep Boys, Futura didnt make anything. Now, the case of filters...there's only so many filter companies in the world. They're all made in the same factories, and then just labeled differently. So, I can understand that the physics of a hydro filter is different, but I do not feel it justifies the price. You may want to try Baldwin or Wix's cross reference system to see if your filter is available from them. Other than that, it's gonna be suck it up at the Exmark counter:D
     
  9. 65hoss

    65hoss LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,360


    I completely agree. Price the hydro system, then see if its worth giving up some quality on your filter.
     
  10. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 7,940

    On Exmark Lazers, its only a yearly maintenance item.

    First time is at 250hrs then yearly thereafter.

    From PAGE 37 of the Owners Manual...

    Changing oil unnecessarily could damage hydraulic system by introducing contaminates into the system.

    Unless your putting over 500hrs a year on, I'd just do it seasonally. The more times you open that cap, the more damage you can do.

    "


    but I'm a bit anal about the fluids and change the hydraulic filter 2-3 times a year."

    I would like to see you more "anal" about the correct filter then how often you change it. Remember, the hydro system is not an internal combustion engine, there is no problem with contaminates like on an engine.
     

Share This Page