Ferris 3100 Positives/Negatives

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by greenology, Apr 11, 2013.

  1. CurbAppealKS

    CurbAppealKS LawnSite Senior Member
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    No problem man! That's what this place is for
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  2. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Thanks for the great review!!! When I demoed(ICD version) I felt a lot of deck movement, especially on side hills and rough terrain(wash board) but all the time. Did you feel any of this? Here in NH we have a lot of hills so hillside stability is a big concern for me. I didn't like the feeling of the heavy deck mowing, to me it took away from the over feel of the machine. I did not get any scalping as I know that is a concern of Greenology.
     
  3. greenology

    greenology LawnSite Senior Member
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    Just to help me get an idea, to compare from cutting here to there, how low would you be cutting GMLC when you weren't getting any scalping? Im not sure what your grasses are like etc but I get the impression you don't cut too low to the ground, although there must be times you need a nice low cut?

    The town I live in is Castle Hill, which is part of the Hills District, as the name suggests this area is nothing less than hills, so lots of "not level" cutting for me.

    I often cut on steep slopes, so it will be interesting to compare the ferris on stability compared with others.

    Not too sure what you mean by heavy deck mowing tho, hope you don't mind explaining :)
     
  4. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Cool season grasses here so we never cut below 3". I felt the cutting deck itself moved a lot and didnt feel tight. Which concerned me for two reasons. 1. Cut quality, considering something like 1/4" pitch makes a huge difference. 2. The deck moving around is a lot of shifting weight which will affect the handling of the machine especially on hill sides.

    Please dont get me wrong. Ferris and Snapper Pro were still both on my short list until I found exactly what I was looking for.
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  5. CurbAppealKS

    CurbAppealKS LawnSite Senior Member
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    I didn't notice any more of this than with any other z. As far as hill stability, I would put the 3100 up against anything. It will hold hills up to the point of not feeling safe. I'm talking flipping it over sideways not sliding down hill. I wish I had pictures of the Walmart I used to mow. The slope seriously approached every bit of 50 degrees at some points. I have actually tipped a 62" sd walker over on this same slope, threw me off and I rolled down the hill on my arse. Luckily the machine stayed upright and the hydros kept it from running down the hill after me, it kind of just slid down slow and controlled.

    I would trust the 3100 on any slope that you can physically mow with a rider.
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  6. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Oops meant "moving" not "mowing":)
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  7. greenology

    greenology LawnSite Senior Member
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    I see what you mean! Something I will pay attention to when demo is how it feels with deck movement, for curiosity if nothing else. Hopefully I wont have any extra deck movement when cutting bellow 3", it shouldn't make any diff I don't think. Anything that may scalp bellow 3" is the same that would cut unevenly at 3". One day soon I will be able to test and answer all my own questions! :dizzy:
     
  8. greenology

    greenology LawnSite Senior Member
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    I think technically the suspension should give better hillside stability, which supports what you say. In the world of cars & atv's Im certain they will hold a hill better with suspension than without. No difference for a ZTR IMO.

    You were lucky to get out of that incident without being hurt!
     
  9. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I cant wait for your review. They are great machines!! Most of the major manufacturers have now gone to hanging their decks with control rods instead of chains. This helps prevent unwanted deck movement or sway on hillsides.
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  10. Realslowww

    Realslowww LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I mow a interstate embankment for a on off to the interstate, I found my 72 better than a 60 for this. My 60 could turn over but the wide stance of the 72 just slides with none of that going over stuff. I am sure it could if circumstances were right.

    For mowing steep inclines alot the drive on the new Hustler with high torque wheel motors like in the ATZ setup would by far be the most durable powerful set up but the new Hustler is over 200 pounds heavier and taller so it screwed that one up a bit.

    Height and weight are major enemies when doing slopes. That new Hustler 72 weighs 1600 pounds. What a pig of a mower, I like a simple design and a Ferris is a beautiful mower but I do real industrial jobs and it is a bit more complicated than I like.

    I would have boughten the new Super but all the extra weight I did not like and a Big Block Carb model will run the gas bill up quick and the height of the machine also.

    The last thing I would want to find out after buying a 72 Hyper Hustler is that it won't cut as steep of slopes because of weight and height and also gets stuck more because of more weight so I decided not to chance it and I am going to update my old Super so I can keep the more agile chasses. If I showed a ZTR dealer what I was using a mower to do they would not do a demo, I would have to sneak it by them, so better to just not take a chance on a 11,000 $ mistake.

    How much does a Ferris 72 weigh?
     

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