Finally got a bid proposal, im confused

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  1. stevenf

    stevenf LawnSite Bronze Member
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    After days of phone calling I finally found out who to contact about some chain stores. I got them to fax me a lawn care bid proposal.
    It is 9 pages long and not was I was expecting. I was expecting just a proposal of what they wanted done and what insurance coverage I was required to have and so on.....
    The proposal I got is a little more demanding. It says " Biweekly maintenance shall be done for $______"
    Thats about the only thing that pretains to lawn care. It is written more as a contract then a proposal. Doesnt have a start or end date which means it isnt a binding contract. It also says that If I am bidding more stores, I have to submit a bid pack for each induvidual store. This means I have to fax over 9 papers per store.

    Questions: Are bid proposal(CONTRACTS) very common? Are they something to avoid? The contract says that you do not bill the store, you bill the company. It also says to submit a different bid for each store you want to bid on. Is this common to see one district branch have a different lawn service for each store?
     
  2. tilawn

    tilawn LawnSite Member
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    you must be talking about USM or Level 1 Maintenance????
     
  3. 1wezil

    1wezil LawnSite Senior Member
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  4. stevenf

    stevenf LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Sorry, but what is usm or level 1? Something to avoid?
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  5. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
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    Jeez...

    Run, don't walk, away from this one.

    Do you really want someone telling you what to charge? Also, the bi-weekly maintenance deal is shaky, what about high growth times of the season - you will be mowing thru a jungle.

    Finally, why do you want to sign THEIR contract? Who knows what's in there. They should be the ones entering into YOUR agreement.

    Run far, far away.
     
  6. Classified

    Classified LawnSite Senior Member
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    That sounds normal for commercial work. Small jobs like single owner strip malls and such aren't like that normally but chains and larger companies tell you exatcly what is to be done and is very specific. And that is also normal to have to submit a bid for each individual store. Some do it that way and some don't. My bid proposal is 3 pages long, it outlines thier requirements for each season and the pricing. Also you sign thier contract. You don't send them one. Commercial work can be very invasive to your company. Many times
    They want multiple references, an equipment list, and one time a company wanted to see all company records for the last 3 years. I didn't sign that one which sux because it was good money.
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  7. kaferhaus

    kaferhaus LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Everyone wants commercial work, yet they don't want the "hassle" of complying with all the paperwork.....
     
  8. stevenf

    stevenf LawnSite Bronze Member
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    So are they expecting me to bid all the stores in the district or only the stores I want? Would they really have two or more companies serving the same district? I think I'm going to submit a bid once I learn a little more. I could really use the money and roadside advertising.
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  9. Classified

    Classified LawnSite Senior Member
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    Well that's what you need to figure out. What did you tell them when you asked to bid? Seems like you need to ask more questions. Also, is the contract through a manegement company or direct with the company?

    If you want to do commercial expect to have 2 mil liability, workmans comp, and the know how, resources, and equipment to handle all tasks including all landscaping, chemical apps, and possibly irrigation. Most commercial isn't a walk in the park like residentials typically are.
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  10. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
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    I'd like to think if most LCO's said the heck with these commercial properties' over-the-top paperwork requirements and didn't bid them, they would loosen up. Let em starve. I know they want to cover their rears, but what is outlined above is just ridiculous. Again, no way I am letting someone tell me how much I will get paid for a job when I own the LCO.

    steven - why don't you dump this one and go bid some small businesses and nice resi's. You will more than make up for this paperwork nightmare.
     

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