Finally My New Exmark Pioneer S Arrived

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by MJB, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. MJB

    MJB LawnSite Silver Member
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    My 60" Lazer Z AS will not hold it either just turns downhill. Plus at the bottom is a retaining wall and lake.
     
  2. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
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    When did you use a Deere? I remember you posting to me last year that you would love to try one.

    The insert kit raised the seat height about 2.5" overall, and when I am on it with the way I have it adjusted for ride comfort that suits me, it is about 2" higher than before. I got used to that very quickly. I like it better too. It allows me to see to the sides better when trimming around things (not that I couldn't see well before, it's just even better now). If I can get a set of the flex forks for mine, I will have a darn good ride.

    My MOD deck chops the clippings up a lot more than the std deck.It is much more like a UC deck in that regard, and as a matter of fact, is probably a little more tightly baffled. The large discharge chute makes a huge difference in wet conditions over the UC though.

    When I had the std deck on my 720, I double cut every now and then, but two passes always got rid of clippings easily. That deck works extremely well with G6's.
     
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  3. Ridin' Green

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    I mow a hill that is every bit as steep as that one appears in your picture, but not quite as big. I have checked it with a magnetic angle gauge on top of the deck, and it is 18 degrees on average, depending on where I am on it. My 950 holds it great. I have yet to ever feel even slightly concerned. There is a chain ink fence at the bottom that rubs perpendicular to one side of the hill that cuts off any run out area, and makes turning at the bottom a PITA when it's really wet.

    I really like the stable feel of this 950 on hill sides. I just wish it had the std Pro deck instead of the MOD.
     
  4. MJB

    MJB LawnSite Silver Member
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    I demoed a 750 for a week with the MOD feature, loved the machine but did not like the windrow it left on 1 side, cut quality was awesome but side discharge was weak.

    I've watch them very closely over the years but dealer support is weak here.
     
  5. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
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    You mean 950 I think. Never heard of a 750. You can do a couple quick mods to the MOD deck to make it cut like a true mulcher. I made new extended baffles for the underside in between the blades (I've posted several pics on here in the past, so it won't let me re-post them now). Between the new baffles and the OEM wavy mulcher blades, there's no windrow left like the stock set up. No blow out either, and it mulches clean in one pass when taking off up to 3.5". By removing the two adjustable baffles underneath at the rear, you can greatly improve discharge, but you are basically left with an OCDC type set up. This is how I run mine 90% of the time.
     
  6. MJB

    MJB LawnSite Silver Member
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    This was a few yrs ago when the 700 series were popular and the mod deck was maybe 2 yrs old. I'm sure it was the 750 or 757 series, the 900 series were not out yet or very unpopular don't remember.

    I asked my dealer if they had any blade options I could try, they were no help and I had to make a quick decision so I went with my 2008 Exmark instead. Now JD won't even try to sell me if I ask because they don't understand the market. They expect me to buy and live with it. You should let JD know how you over come the windrow issue because that was my biggest beef, and the side discharge wouldn't blow hard enough to clean it up.
     
  7. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
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    They know. They read this site, and a while back another poster said that he had heard from Deere that they were working on making some baffles like I came up with, which if they do, will cause me to take action against them.

    They did have the 757. That was several years back now. I think 2007 was the last year for them. They are a whole different machine. If your demo machine was built prior to 2006, then it had the original 7 Iron deck which was in the 15, 5K BTS neighborhood. In 2006 they upped the BTS to 18K. The one I have now blows very hard as set up stock, but works better yet as I said, with those two baffles removed if you want to side discharge mainly.
     
  8. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    My intention wasnt to insult so I apologize. I try to be 100% honest when I state my opinion on any machine that I own, demo or operate. I bought a new Exmark Viking in 1999 with a Trivantage deck. In 2005 I had a Lazer Z loaner for 3 weeks while waiting for Kohler to replace an engine that swallowed the valves on a scag. And in 2012 I demoed a Lazer Z for a couple days. All were tightly baffled and had a great crisp cut with no straglers. The lift was amazing and the clippings were small. When the grass was wet they all puked clumps forcing me to double cut. I can make all decks clump but the velocity, 7 iron and x-factor decks can cut in the rain with minimal clumping and rarely have the need to double cut. New England is unique when it comes to cutting conditions. Honestly Exmark still dominates sales here but most double cut. One of the largest LCO's here is switching a fleet of 200-300 Exmarks to Deere.
     
  9. weaver

    weaver LawnSite Bronze Member
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    No insult, no need to apologize...
     
  10. MJB

    MJB LawnSite Silver Member
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    I built a rubber flap striper to darken my stripes. See pics takes just a few minutes, I wish I had a heavier piece of flat metal but this works in a pinch.
    I took off another inch so it sits an inch higher than in the picture.

    Don't know what that is flying in front of the camera never noticed it when I took the pic.

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