Fixture placement

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by Rainman7, Nov 18, 2010.

  1. Rainman7

    Rainman7 LawnSite Senior Member
    from NY
    Posts: 288

    Another question...while searching the site for help on that house, I came across Links to Jan Moyer's site.

    Looking through her photos which seem to be mostly trees, I noticed how good they all looked but I also noticed her fixture placement. I understand that she sets up displays above ground but what happens during an install. I know you have to use your own common sense but what fixtures do you guys use when you need to put fixtures above ground in the middle of lawn areas? or do you do it at all. I always think maintenance nightmare with the landscapers and kids.
     
  2. steveparrott

    steveparrott Sponsor
    Posts: 1,190

    You're pretty much limited to well lights in turf areas. I like to avoid that as much as possible because of maintenance issues.

    Depending on the type of tree, its often possible to situate bullets near the trunk and still illuminate the entire tree canopy by careful aiming and wise choice of beam spreads.

    An example (Design by Justin Mercer):

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  3. emby

    emby LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ontario
    Posts: 380

    The photos within the Landscape Lighting Institute section most certainly show the fixtures in the sod areas since the students are completing a mock up design with a vast assortment of fixtures. (If you ever want to have an amazing experience with landscape lighting then sign up for the course :) )

    As Steve commented, well lights are always my choice for turf areas.
    My experience with trying many different MR16 well lights have been educational to say the least. I really like this fixture along with a few other special people in my life.

    http://www.vision3lighting.com/prod4.asp?cid=42&pid=64&lid=106

    Lighting large trees were so challenging for me until this past October, then I learned that more fixtures and less wattage provide me with the detail I like to have in my compostions. Most trees that I have worked on are sitting in the middle of sod so bullet lights are usually not involved. Tree mounted fixtures and in ground light fixtures are usually the norm.
    Hope this helps a bit.

    Ken
     
  4. RLI Electric

    RLI Electric LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 381

    Ken, did you use that fixture at the LLI? I just had a rep show that to me yesterday. Big pvc sleeve on that and long too. I was concerned about that near root systems.
     
  5. emby

    emby LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ontario
    Posts: 380

    Hi Bob,

    Yes and in fact Jan has them installed and are illuminating the Walnut trees by her residence.
    They are VERY robust and designed perfectly. The particular version we saw was custom made specifically for her which had a stainless steel sleeve with many components. It allowed water to escape and not sit on the glass as well. The best I have ever seen in my opinion.

    Ken
     
  6. RLI Electric

    RLI Electric LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 381

    Yeah, I do. I liked all the Vision 3 stuff we used up there. We saw the walnuts lit up and she shows what each lamp does with the Lutron system which was cool but we didn't look close at the actual fixture in the ground. How did you like the class? I saw the photos on her website, the groups did a beautiful job.
     
  7. emby

    emby LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ontario
    Posts: 380

    Bob,

    All I can say is that it was life altering for me and it has been one of the most positive experiences I have ever had in my life. A ton of information that filled my bucket and then some. The food was amazing too. No sleep though as those local bars stay open really late :)
    Oh and we were group 2 and I am one of the bald guys in the photo.
     
  8. Rainman7

    Rainman7 LawnSite Senior Member
    from NY
    Posts: 288

    Looking at her site it looks like the class is only once a year? or are there other ones. I would really love to find a hands on class I could take over the winter if anyone knows of any.
     
  9. RLI Electric

    RLI Electric LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 381

    It is only in the fall, sometimes there are 2 if the first one fills up. You are right it is tough. Especially when you are pumped up to do projects and the ground freezes up a month later
     
  10. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,181

    Funny how different things are from one region to the next. When you guys are winding down your seasons I am he busiest. I am booked now thru New Years and I know a guy in Atlanta that is the same.
     

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