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Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by BrendonTW, Jan 14, 2013.

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Landscape maintenance crews annual NET per crew

  1. $0-15k

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  2. $15k-20

    4 vote(s)
    9.5%
  3. $20k-30

    3 vote(s)
    7.1%
  4. $30k-40

    3 vote(s)
    7.1%
  5. $40k-50

    4 vote(s)
    9.5%
  6. $50k-60

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. $60k-70

    2 vote(s)
    4.8%
  8. $70k-80

    5 vote(s)
    11.9%
  9. $80k-100

    6 vote(s)
    14.3%
  10. $100k-150

    7 vote(s)
    16.7%
  11. $150k or more

    7 vote(s)
    16.7%
  1. wbw

    wbw LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 5,457

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  2. snomaha

    snomaha LawnSite Senior Member
    from midwest
    Posts: 893

    Net 39%? - does that include a fair market wage for you as an expense?
     
  3. grasshopperslawn

    grasshopperslawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 293

    Don't use adwords. Been thinking about it. I like the organic listings better.
     
  4. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping LawnSite Silver Member
    from Maine
    Posts: 2,716

    How many crews do you have? Also do all of them hit this mark?
     
  5. grasshopperslawn

    grasshopperslawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 293

    Sometimes a crew won't hit there mark we try to keep at least two crews in close proximity of each other that way if one crew finishes early we send it to help out the other one . When we do the routes we try to make sure they overlap each other or are within close proximity at the end of the day . That way if one gets behind thebother one helps. It also helps to have gps in all the trucks that way we can dispatch a crew if we have to . We have 8 crews by the end of this season we should be running 11 crews. Currently during this off season we are runing only 3 trucks
     
  6. Central Florida Lawns

    Central Florida Lawns LawnSite Member
    Posts: 2

    Grasshopper, it looks like we run similar numbers in the way of net margin (we're at about 36% working our way to 39% as our fixed stay flat and we grow). We run only 8 crews to your 11, but we are primarily residential.

    My question for the group is do you find it more efficient running 2 or 3 man crews for residential work? I haven't run the numbers, but 2 men can do about 80% of what 3 men can do, but then you have the expense of an extra truck.

    Also, any input on running NPR's instead of truck and trailers? How do you guys handle debris?

    Thanks
     
  7. grassmasterswilson

    grassmasterswilson LawnSite Platinum Member
    from nc
    Posts: 4,537

    I don't run multiple crews but seems there are a lot of variables in this poll. Some guys are getting questioned on their numbers.

    Everyone's overhead is going to be different. So someone could net 40% on a gross of 50k or net 20% on 100k

    Wages, drive time on routes, lawn sizes, etc are different everywhere you go.
     
  8. Efficiency

    Efficiency LawnSite Bronze Member
    from zone 6
    Posts: 1,544

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  9. grasshopperslawn

    grasshopperslawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 293

    We run 8 crews also . But by the end of this season it will be 11. I would like to chat more with you if we have similar numbers. We are also about 95% residential
     
  10. grasshopperslawn

    grasshopperslawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 293

    To us if we have a lot of properties in one area then a 3 man crew seems more efficient. But when we are spread out more we use 2 man crews .
     

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