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Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by BrendonTW, Jan 14, 2013.

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Landscape maintenance crews annual NET per crew

  1. $0-15k

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  2. $15k-20

    4 vote(s)
    9.5%
  3. $20k-30

    3 vote(s)
    7.1%
  4. $30k-40

    3 vote(s)
    7.1%
  5. $40k-50

    4 vote(s)
    9.5%
  6. $50k-60

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. $60k-70

    2 vote(s)
    4.8%
  8. $70k-80

    5 vote(s)
    11.9%
  9. $80k-100

    6 vote(s)
    14.3%
  10. $100k-150

    7 vote(s)
    16.7%
  11. $150k or more

    7 vote(s)
    16.7%
  1. BrendonTW

    BrendonTW LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from Oklahoma City
    Posts: 547

    Just wanted to bump this and point out the fact that two people voted that they bring in 15K net with one crew and two people also voted that they bring in 150K + with one crew. Crazy how much the numbers varied.
     
  2. snomaha

    snomaha LawnSite Senior Member
    from midwest
    Posts: 859

    I think you posted the wrong poll - "how many people understand basic financial concepts" might be a better one.
     
  3. BrendonTW

    BrendonTW LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from Oklahoma City
    Posts: 547

    Lol you may be right. I figured that those who ran more than one crew would at least have a basic understanding.
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  4. RoyalTree

    RoyalTree LawnSite Member
    Posts: 156

    We net different amount on different crews. We have crews that are barely profitable because they end up doing alot of odds and ends that might not be very profitable but need to be done to keep customers happy.

    I have a large crew that does over 400k gross per year. Our crew sizes vary greatly from 1 guy running a bobcat or grapple truck to 7-9 on our largest mowing crew.

    So many of the different crews overlap on the same accounts that it is impossible to say exactly what dollars is earned by which crew sometimes. It is the final bottom line that I look at. I am not in the 30s in my profit margins but we still do ok.
     
  5. mwalz

    mwalz LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,179

    Solo guy here but an interesting thread and poll. Hopefully i will be a big company after college like the rest of you guys.
     
  6. gcbailey

    gcbailey LawnSite Silver Member
    from WV
    Posts: 2,552

    We run 2 crews, one is 70/30 residential/commercial and the other is about 65/35 commercial/residential.... There are definitely variations on what each crew brings in due to the clientele... You haven't thought about that in your poll either.
     
  7. Locqus

    Locqus LawnSite Senior Member
    from Detroit
    Posts: 708

    2, 2 man crews pulling in about $12-$15k Net a year each. Try to keep in manageable. We over reached last year with work and ran them ragged. pulled in an extra $15k gross per truck but for far less in profit. Scaled back this year and things are much steadier.

    Locqus will help the one man crews become two man crews! :p
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2014
  8. BrendonTW

    BrendonTW LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from Oklahoma City
    Posts: 547

    That may be true, but shouldn't your rate be the same per hour for residential and commercial? If the commercial crew is pulling more man hours per week then it would generate more revenue but if both crews are pulling say, 55 hours per crew per week, shouldn't you bring in the same? Given that the crews have the same number of guys.
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  9. RoyalTree

    RoyalTree LawnSite Member
    Posts: 156

    All clients do not bring in the same rates. Not even close. They differ for a variety of reasons.
     
  10. BrendonTW

    BrendonTW LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from Oklahoma City
    Posts: 547

    Elaborate if you would. If you bill at $30 per man hour and run a 3 man crew on a residential property for 2 hours, your price would be $180. For us it would be the same pricing structure for any property. Obviously some clientele you can perform more than just your standard service each time you're there. Sprinkler repairs, fertilize, stick a few plants in the ground, etc... Maybe this is what you're talking about?
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