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Ford F-450

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by bmoorefield, May 15, 2013.

  1. bmoorefield

    bmoorefield LawnSite Member
    Posts: 132

    I am looking to buy a new or slighlty used Ford F-450 with a dump bed. This will be the first larger vehicle I will be buying, we have been using 3/4 ton trucks. A lot of the F-450's that I have been finding are 4x2, and the few 4x4's I find are signifigantly more $$$.
    I live in Maryland and have some plowing contracts, would a 4x2 be okay to plow with. I know its a heavy truck, but is heavy enough for plowing with only 2 wheel drive? Does anybody out there do this?
  2. LandFakers

    LandFakers LawnSite Fanatic
    from CT
    Posts: 6,229

    Not sure what you are plowing but I do a few lots with a f350 dump and it's always in 2wd. I do have 2-3 ton of product in the box though. Have needed 4x4 3-4 times ever the entire winter and that was just driving between lots.
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  3. whiffyspark

    whiffyspark LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,110

    4x4 is usually needed for between lots in our area.

    You need a spreader for weight for 2wd
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  4. bmoorefield

    bmoorefield LawnSite Member
    Posts: 132

    So the truck would be fine with weight in it, unless it is a road with a steep incline. It sounds like the truck dry with a plow could cause some problems getting tracking.
  5. RSK Property Maintenance

    RSK Property Maintenance LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,486

    i would buy a 4x4 and these are the only years i would buy, 2008-2010 they are the last of the real f450's the 2011-current f450's have the same size brakes, smaller wheels, they don't turn as well....smaller front ends, all around garbage. 2008-10 f450's turn extremely sharp, my buddy has crew cab dually 8ft bed and it can turn around in a small area then my regular cab 96 f350, its crazy.
  6. Marek

    Marek LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,385

    First off the pick up and the chassis are two totally different animals. Second the 6.4 is less desirable than a 6.0 and that is saying something. Maybe thats due to the fact that the only thing the 6.4 is good for is a boat anchor.
    4x4 vs 4x2 depends on your lots and if you are going to run a v box or enough weight for ballast. Is 4x4 nicer , yes , is it a must ? No ! We have run many rear wheel drive dumps as our lots are larger and our trucks all have v box spreaders in them. Its Maryland , not Maine so our snows are usually wet not icy.
  7. cutbetterthanyou

    cutbetterthanyou LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,178

    One thing to consider (from what i have been told, and not sure if it is a issue for you), but a 450 can be used without cdls, but once a trailer is behind you they are required.
  8. bmoorefield

    bmoorefield LawnSite Member
    Posts: 132

    You don’t need a CDL unless the gross combined vehicle weight is over 26,000lbs. I think the GVW of the f-450 is either 14,000lbs or 16,000, maybe somebody who has one could chime in on that. It will definitely need DOT numbers. If you are towing a trailer that has a GVW of 8,000lbs you don’t need a CDL.
    CDL is not something I am interested in getting or making that a requirement for my employees.
  9. RSK Property Maintenance

    RSK Property Maintenance LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,486

    14,000 lb gvw, same as my 7x14 dump trailer which weighs 4000lbs and can hold 10,000 vs. a f450 weighs 10,000 and can hold 4000 legally...which is why i went with a dump trailer. even if i was towing my dump trailer with a f350 dump with a gvw of 10,200 i would still be under the 26,000 and i would carrying a hell of a lot more then an f450. just some food for thought.
  10. bmoorefield

    bmoorefield LawnSite Member
    Posts: 132

    Thanks! Your dump trailer is a little stronger then mine. I would be safe because my dump trailer GVW is 12,000. So I would be 1 lb under the 26,001 gcvw limit. I had to look that up to make sure.
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