Ford Powerstroke or Dodge Cummins?

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by WalkerMan9669, Mar 23, 2005.

  1. Travis Followell

    Travis Followell LawnSite Silver Member
    from KY
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    Smalltimer, Dodge transmissions are not as bad as you think. Just because you had bad luck with one doesn't make every single one of them bad. if that was the case then no one would buy dodges and I don't know about where you live but here there are a lot of Dodges on the road. Just as many as Fords and Chevy's. In 2003 Dodge redesigned their transmissions and came out with the 48 re and there have been very few problems with it. It's a lot better transmission than the old 47re used with the Cummins in 2002 and down. I think the new Dodge transmissions would hold up just as good as any other auto transmission.
     
  2. malojeer

    malojeer LawnSite Member
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    My Dodge 2500 has a 6 speed manual.Zero problems. seems the automatics are the ones with more trouble. I've been a Diesel Mechanic for 17 yrs. and recently got out because of a bad back. In my experience the new powerstrokes are having a lot of electrical and injection problems. The new chevy Duramax is having major trouble with heads in 30,000 mile range. Friend has one and been to shop 4 times with head problems.
     
  3. Travis Followell

    Travis Followell LawnSite Silver Member
    from KY
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    The Duramax's is also having problems with the flywheels breaking.
     
  4. Smalltimer1

    Smalltimer1 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Yes I work on them at the farm.

    1987 Chevy 70 Cat 3208/Road Ranger
    1975 John Deere 4230 Quad Range Diesel
    2001 John Deere 5205 SyncReverse Diesel

    Had a International Loadstar with the Cummins--worst diesel ever put in a truck. Went through numerous injector pumps and always combatting fuel leaks. Got smart and got a Cat diesel, the repair bills almost disappeared then.

    Power Strokes are not throw aways, I drove one a while back with 800k on the original engine. Talk to any of the loggers and OTR drivers around here and they'll tell you Cummins are disposable engines. Most prefer Cats and there are people that like Detroits.

    Actually I have seen several non-turbo 7.3's put in Dodges, easy to do because of the mechanical control and no electronics. The reason you don't see PSD's in Dodges is because of the amount of electrical fab up required. The Cummins put in Fords are 6BTA's with out electronics. I have heard of one 24v Cummins put in a Ford, but the cost was so enormous that you'd never get the money back out.

    Look around at medium duty trucks, International engines are by far the best. The DT-466 started off rough in the late 70's but has now been refined to be the best MD diesel out. The same goes for the HT-570. The Power Stroke T444E was also one of the best out, its only downfall was emissions. In the Class 8 OTR trucks, Cats rule the roads. Cummins are base or discounted, while Cats are the top option available. Power Stroke trucks also retain higher resale value than Cummins. Wonder why?

    I took my mother's Dodge Intrepid into the Dodge dealer for oil change/filter yesterday afternoon, and was talking to a salesman about the diesel trucks, and asked about the automatic transmissions, he said that they were instructed not to talk about the autos unless the customer mentioned it, he ended up telling me that the bugs are still not out of the 48RE.
     
  5. Lawnworks

    Lawnworks LawnSite Fanatic
    from usa
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    Umm yes they are. They are too expensive to rebuild. Ask any qualified mechanic. Cummins are disposable? What? I have built 3 for far less than the cost of a new one. Parts are readily available. Perhaps you should look up "disposable" in the dictionary. Logger and OTR drivers all have 6-cylinder diesels in their big rigs... why would they like a V8 diesel engine. Torque is a beautiful thing, and torque is 6-cylinder motor's specialty.

    Show me a powerstroke in a dodge! Post a picture!

    This is purely your opinion which is frankly misguided.

    Hey man, your brand loyalty is mind boggling. You can't even admit Powerstrokes have problems at all other than a cam sensor problem.

    Do you, yourself actually own a diesel??? Not your daddy's diesel... if not I don't see how your opinion could be worth the crap on the bottom of my shoe.
     
  6. Planet Landscaping

    Planet Landscaping LawnSite Senior Member
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    Powerstrokes here. :waving:
     
  7. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
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    Lawnworks- Don't waste your time aruging with small timer. Everytime a truck thread comes up its the same deal. Don't waste your time. Let him be a dumb and buy a powerstroke.

    Matt
     
  8. Dodgemania

    Dodgemania LawnSite Member
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    My vote is cummins all the way. Why do you people think cummins hasn't changed their design over the last decade and a half. The 7.3 didn't cut it and in 4 or 5 years there will be something different besides the 6.0. Mean while cummins will be in there third decade. No need to change perfection!
     
  9. Dodgemania

    Dodgemania LawnSite Member
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    There's a reason why there called power jokes!
     
  10. northwest lawn

    northwest lawn LawnSite Member
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    id rather be cummin than strokin
     

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