Frozen RoundUp?!?

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by Craig Turf Management, Oct 31, 2001.

  1. Craig Turf Management

    Craig Turf Management LawnSite Senior Member
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    What do you folks do to prevent your chemicals from freezing in the wintertime? I keep everything in a locked cabinet in my garage, but sometimes it get's pretty cold in there. Would a light bulb inside the cabinet do the trick?
    Thanks for your help, Bill!
     
  2. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    Craig

    that light bulb might light up your life or death

    Ric
    I can't spellll but 2+2=5
     
  3. Bring it in the house, basement or wherever.
     
  4. ERIC ROBERGE

    ERIC ROBERGE LawnSite Member
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    You might try putting one of those pet heating pads on the bottom shelf of the cabinet. For safety I would wrap it in a fire blanket. Dont use a regular heating pad because they are not designed for continous use.
     
  5. MOW ED

    MOW ED LawnSite Fanatic
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    Like LGF said bring it in.

    If you build up heat in a confined space, the heat is eventually transferred to something. It may be the cabinet, the cord on the element, the product you are heating. Unregulated heat is dangerous. Eventually something gets too much heat transferred to it and then its at its ignition temp. End of story until later. Regulating it isn't much safer either. Its much easier to bring it in and let room temperature of your basement do its thing.

    If you have reportable quantities and cause a fire you might as well start your car if it hasn't burned and move to Canada because the EPA is gonna want to have a chat with you and your wallet about clean-up. It ain't cheap and the EPA and DNR LIVE to enforce these rules. You dont want your business going down the tubes because of this.

    Its not worth putting ANY kind of heating element near.
     
  6. tremor

    tremor LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I've used Roundup that was stored in an unheated garage all winter for years with no loss of efficacy. I darkens in color a bit, but doesn't seem to affect performance. Roundup Pro is an EC.
    Flowables are NG in the cold. Most of these will go all to h***.

    Approved Chem Sheds are heated, from the exterior. I would NOT recommend the use of an electric heating matt or pad. Fire Hazard.

    Switch to Roundup Pro Dry and the issue will go away.
    Steve
     
  7. Mow Ed, you brought up a good point for others to look at.

    Don't just though this stuff in a corner either, Keep it in a area you can lock or keep out of reach of children or pets and other animals.
     
  8. Craig Turf Management

    Craig Turf Management LawnSite Senior Member
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    I've got about 1.5 gallons of Round-Up Pro, and various amounts of several different chemicals in the locked cabinet in my garage. Bringing these chemicals inside is not an option. I have a seven year old, and a seventeen month old. If I can't come up with a solution soon, maybe I can find someone to store it for me. I have been thinking of moving the cabinet closer to the hot water heater(gas), in the garage. Any other thoughts on this matter would be appreciated.
    Thanks, Bill!
     
  9. Bill, remember the old science experiment, put an ice cube in saw dust to insulate it and it took almost 5 hours to melt at a 70 degree room temp.

    How about this, get some exterior insulation and use it on the out side to keep the thing from getting to cold inside.

    Might work might not, but maby it will keep the inside temp just above frezzing enough to keep the chemicals from frezzing.
     
  10. UrbanEarth

    UrbanEarth LawnSite Member
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    LGF's solution sounds good. Simply insulate the container and this will make a huge difference. One thing to consider if you have a really cold spell is simply run a piece of copper pipe into the container from the hot water tank (Which is in your garage????? Is this your house supply?) and a small pump, and this will keep everything toasty. Who know , gravity might even do the trick.

    BTW Storage of chemicals in a residence or any area that has food is a No-No!

    Alan
     

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