Fru Fru fixtures

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by High Performance Lighting, Aug 15, 2007.

  1. High Performance Lighting

    High Performance Lighting LawnSite Senior Member
    from So Cal
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    I have a long standing policy to never specify or supply Fru fru fixtures. What is a fru fru fixture? It's a fixture that is designed to look nice as an ornament at the expense of the lighting effect that it provides.

    Today I have 2 Fru Fru fixtures sprung upon me by the owner while working on their project. They ask me if I'd replace their existing post mounts with these two butt ugly flowerpot/devil's face/glow bombs which they bought from the local lamp store. It was a K-----r brand monstrosity. I've never seen such a thing and hope to never see them again. They have 3 devils faces that must be screwed to the glass jar that supports the pot liner. The glass jar has a 12volt light source under it to provide a glow I suspect. Sure enough 1 of 3 proprietary screws is broken coming out of the box so I cannot succesfully install this thing until a new screw is procured from the lamp store through the manufacturer which is in the mid west. Needless to say this good deed is going to require me to return to this project to finsh installing one helluva beautiful fixture. Just re-inforces my feeling about Fru Fru fixtures and how they have no place on my projects. I'm still wondering how any plants are going to grow in the bath tub of a planter that has no drainage holes. Poor design to say the least.
     
  2. NiteTymeIlluminations

    NiteTymeIlluminations LawnSite Senior Member
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    We could have only grass in our front yard too...or a natural prairie...no ornamental trees and above your dining room table we could only have recessed cans...and god forbid you put a vase on a table...lets all live in square buildings no fountains, no front columns, square windows only...nothing decorative anywhere...actually lets just live hoever HPL tells us to
     
  3. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
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    Go Doug!! Why should anyone get what they want anyway?
     
  4. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
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    Hey Mikes right; The fixtures are a pain in the butt, and nothing screams 'I am a homeowner installled job' more than some of these God awful looking goofy fixtures. If I had a homeowner that wanted them I would probably try to steer them away from them too. However, eventually you may have to concede to them. Just hang a sign from those fixtures that says, not mine pal.
     
  5. NiteTymeIlluminations

    NiteTymeIlluminations LawnSite Senior Member
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    I realize that they are a pain in the butt at times but that doesnt mean that you positively can't use them...you gonna walk off a job because your clients wants a tiffany petal fixture? "I wil not use them, sorry..." People have their own tastes...I hate china hats made in brass I think they are boring...does that mean i wont sell them to someone who wants them? I think pool lights are glare bombs but imagine pools without them...
     
  6. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
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    What it all really comes down to is making the client happy. I will make suggestions and educate the client as to what a quality fixture can and will do for their project but if they want fru fru, they get fru fru. I like to place fixtures where they create depth and interest but have had clients that just want "pop". You know what they get? They get "pop". It's their property and their money. They are paying me to do a job for them and therefore the clients gets what they want.
     
  7. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I agree. Not all of us are 4 months booked out. I have had several clients not wish to be involved with the design and just let me know what they want and I do it. 99% of the time they are thrilled. sometimes they want to change a bit after and thats fine. It is THIER property.

    I think mike is speaking of thoes$$$ kichler urns ? I have a client who is asking for 2 of them on a project to sit atop a staircase pillar at the landing. Not sure if I agree with them but I will also be reccomending a deck/step light fixture as well.

    bottom line... i get input from client... client gets input from me. I get input from client... They get design and installed. Always leave room to expand. Why you dont like fru fru the client may like gaudy and it may fit who they are.... to each his own.
     
  8. High Performance Lighting

    High Performance Lighting LawnSite Senior Member
    from So Cal
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    Show me in my statement where I was imposing my values on anyone? I simply stated a situation and an opinion. I agreed to install these fixtures for free and it came back to bite me as is usual when a homeowner supplies and there are parts missing. It's the contractor that get's delayed and/or must source parts . It's a losing proposition especially when the product is junk as is the case here. I don't sell products I don't believe in and 100% fully backup and guarantee. If they want a particular product and I disagree with it then they buy it on their own and I install it and it is what it is or I opt out of the project because it's either not profitable or not going to be a good representation of my work.:hammerhead:
     
  9. Kate Butler

    Kate Butler LawnSite Senior Member
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    It's 'frou frou' and it mean frivolous and/or ridiculous.
     
  10. High Performance Lighting

    High Performance Lighting LawnSite Senior Member
    from So Cal
    Posts: 326


    Thank you Kate , And yes that's a perfect definition of these fixtures.
     

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