For what ever reason the town next door to mine looks on the surface to be a gold mine. Big lawns 1-2 acres I know when I did the grand list there are 5,600 properties my town looks the same size but has 27,000. My town has some large lawns I happen to live on that section and love doing them but Orange next door which is only 2 miles north is like a different world. The prices that you would think should be hirer are in fact lower much lower I go in and bid on a lawn and only dare ask 40 for an acre and there is a good chance I will not see it because the guy they have now that they hate so much that they called me is only charging 25-30 and the idiot is bagging it as well. I feel like Bart in the Simpsons when Lisa wired a donut and he just keeps reaching for it and getting zapped. There are a few new high-end developments 1-2 million dollar homes and in these I am dominating the market but the old country homes that fill in 90% of the landscape are just set in the 1960s for price. I have one I now have 5 very large homes in I had 4 was getting 40 each nice flat easy work and the next door guy comes up to me while the guy was doing it so much for using a hustler this guy was pissed. Hegoes how much I say I am getting 40 each he goes nonsense Ill give you 55 three weeks later he goes I love your work make the price 70 per cut. Why cant I get me 170 of these I love this guy. What got me pissed off was yesterday I am doing a new lawn I picked up a few months back I bid $40 they claimed the last guy was $30 but went with me anyway. I nearly fired them the first week the lawn was so over fertilized that it grew a full foot that week and took much longer then I ever care to repeat. The lawn dried out quickly as they are lazy and did not water so it became acceptable price wise. So this week I go cut and she comes out and asks for a clean up price. My first year I did this I got out of it last year and will never do that again you just can not tell how long it is going to take dozens of factors from rain to drought to wind to temp to grass thickness to where the leaves collect on the lawn and so on. So I tell her flat out we charge by the hour I told her its $35 a man hour (actually I will be charging $40 this year but they do not need that info I have way to much high end equipment to charge any less) So she goes I can not leave this open ended I need the price now so I look around theres 35,000 sq ft of lawn theres more then a dozen large maples 2 foot diameter or larger. Theres a fenced in back yard with a fenced in pool in there surrounded by a 5-foot high steep bank. The front is mostly open but its a main street speed limit is like 45 and the cars just fly by. I see 8 to 12 hours of hell so I look at her and go well then if you need it now your looking at around 300-500 dollars. WHAT I have never paid more then 150 mind you there is no place to dump so I will be taking 10 yards of this stuff with me once we vac it or 100-150 yards before I shred it. How do you respond to someone that dumb as to think that is a good price? If my pay rate was as high as Rods the job would cost me 250 just in labor to do it. So here I am trying to get the better lawn cuts and they all think I should charge them what I get for 5 mins work on the shoreline.