I really haven't done a install in several years without some number of fully shrouded fixtures, but yet most of the major fixtures lines discussed here don't offer a fully shrouded glare free fixture. All the top designers that speak at conferences, classes, and etc. preach proper shielding as a major focus. Not only does the lens need to be recessed and fully shrouded, the finish needs to be a flat and glare free coating also. We have always used BK, Lumiere, and HK for this need and now we also use the New Vista fixture when working within a tight budget.