GIMME A MATCH! 6.5TD stalls!

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by fullmetalbucket, Feb 22, 2010.

  1. fullmetalbucket

    fullmetalbucket LawnSite Member
    Posts: 75

    Hi All, I've got a '95 GMC 3500 6.5TD that runs like a top!!! Until I go to move it!! It has a full tank of fuel, new OPS, new LP and it stalls after I move it about 50 ft in the driveway!! It started doing it in Jan and I can't figure it out.... plus I don't have a heated shop or anywhere I can get the truck in out of the weather to work on it so I haven't spent much time crawling around in the snow to check it out.... It'll run just idling all day long (tonight for 40 min or so...), but as soon as I start driving it it just stalls.
    Any ideas?
    Oh, it also has a new sending unit in the tank and a couple new fuel lines and there are no obvious fuel leaks.... :confused:
     
  2. zabmasonry

    zabmasonry LawnSite Senior Member
    from C. VT
    Posts: 314

    PMD possibly? does the engine spool up while the truck sits still? I had a lot of issues with my 6.5 getting air in through hairline cracks in the fuel system. can you give a few specifics on the truck
     
  3. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
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    Torch it, my Dad's '96 stalls out on the open road, something to do with the ECM getting hot enough to turn itself off, there is a mod available where you put a small computer cooling fan on an aluminum heat sink and that stops the stalling.
     
  4. mowerbrad

    mowerbrad LawnSite Fanatic
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    Does it always stall out when driving, or is it more periodic, like once a day?

    I'd check the injection pump and PMD, but I'm leaning toward the injection pump.
     
  5. fullmetalbucket

    fullmetalbucket LawnSite Member
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    It's frustrating because it starts fine, runs fine and stalls about 20-30sec after I start to move it around.... Makes no difference if it's hot or cold. I can't drive it because it won't run. It almost seems like when it's under load it starves for fuel. I replaced the fuel filter - no difference. Today as a test, when I turned the ignition over and the LP came on I opened the bleeder on top of the fuel filter housing and fuel was pouring out - good sign! Started it up, let it run maybe 10 min, put it in gear and moved about 10ft and it stalled.... :hammerhead: So I turned the ignition off then back on so the LP would come on and opened the bleeder again and nothing.... took the top of the housing off with the LP running and the housing was practically empty. Let it sit a couple hours, turned the ignition on and opened the bleeder, I got a ton of air out then fuel, then I started it, let it run and it shut down as always when I went to move it.... Really miss having a heated shop at times like this.... I hate to think it's the PMD.... could it be sucking air from some pinhole? Would that be enough to cause all this??
    Thanks for the replies.
     
  6. bearmtnmartin

    bearmtnmartin LawnSite Senior Member
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    Its often the PMD. If you have more than 30000K on it, I would suggest changing it. They get hot and crap out. If its the injection pump, it will often give trouble when it is warm, because they can't build enough fuel pressure on hot fuel. But hey, if you want either a PMD or a new pump, I have both! I threw a rod in my 6.5 a few weeks ago just after recieving a new pump from Heath Diesel so its still in the box....Now I have a Dodge. A good injection pump on a 6.5 has enough suck to actually draw from the fuel tank. Or so I'm told. A good way to figure out which component it is is to pour cold water on either the pump or the PMD. It will cool down the fuel/raise fuel pressure or cool down the PMD so it will start. Helped me isolate my worn pump.
     
  7. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 10,099

    I still say torch the damn truck, Chevy's burn real good, it's all the hopes and dreams of Americans who purchased that crap that makes such good fuel for a Chevy fire!
     
  8. bearmtnmartin

    bearmtnmartin LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 342

    I really liked my truck, and I can't say it gave me any trouble except what I did to myself, other than a couple PMD's. But towing a 10,000 # machine and throw in a boost fooler, 80 hp chip, marine injectors.......I can't really blame the truck....
     
  9. fullmetalbucket

    fullmetalbucket LawnSite Member
    Posts: 75

    LOL! I'm almost there! It's a tough truck and has done alot of heavy work over the last few years I've had it but there are so many little things that can just shut the truck down..... I'm ok to fix things if I have the time but right now time is pretty thin..... Hopefully I'll have another truck sometime this week or on the weekend..... I'd like to get this truck fixed and keep it going but it's clear I need a backup!

    Anyhow, I don't think it can be heat related as it'll do it when it's stone cold, running only a minute or two after it's been running. Could it still be the PMD?? This truck has 92,000 orig miles with about 15,000 on a full rebuild with stud girdle kit....

    What do you want for the pump and PMD Martin?? :drinkup:
     
  10. bearmtnmartin

    bearmtnmartin LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 342

    Well, its sure doing me no good sitting on my shelf. I just went to Heaths website and they have dropped the price. I Paid $1100.00 in December, and now its $100.00 less. So how about....$750.00 plus shipping? I have not even opened the box.
     

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