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Giving a foreman the ability to fire someone.

Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by johnnybow, Sep 30, 2012.

  1. johnnybow

    johnnybow LawnSite Member
    Posts: 157

    Have you ever given a foreman that worked for you the ability to fire someone? For example, if you werent able to work directly with a crew and he was the man in charge. Any experiences?
     
  2. grandview (2006)

    grandview (2006) LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,466

  3. DEPENDABLE LANDSCAPING

    DEPENDABLE LANDSCAPING LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,343

    MAke sure you have your verbal warnings documented, your written warnings signed by employee, and your stories straight.
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  4. tonygreek

    tonygreek LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,391

    Fire someone on the spot? Absolutely not. Recommended they be terminated? Sure. As DependableLandscaping points out, have a process and follow it so that you can avoid Grandview's rhetorical question.
     
  5. TriCountyLawn

    TriCountyLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,517

    Thats YOUR job.
     
  6. seabee24

    seabee24 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 619

    Officially only I hire and fire

    Unoffcially - what the Forman says goes , his recommendations are strongly followed as I hold the Forman to certain production standards. He shouldn't have someone on his crew he doesn't like

    Officially the Forman can send someone home for the day, in which case I would do a verbal, or written write up the following day
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  7. knox gsl

    knox gsl LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,719

    And this is how it should be. I have been a forman before and the owner came to me to fire a guy that he asked me to hire. I didn't like dealing with any of it but the worker did need to go and it was my call in the end.
     
  8. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping LawnSite Silver Member
    from Maine
    Posts: 2,715

    This is how we do it, firing someone on the spot lets emotions get involved. Maybe your foreman is mad because the guy messed up, or was late. Don't give yourself that much stress, because for every guy they fire YOU have to find someone to replace them.
     
  9. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 11,254

    Why?

    Horse hockey.

    What if one lives in an at-will state? Michigan is, I can fire for any reason or no reason. I have a disciplinary policy, but I don't have to follow it.

    Besides, there are some offenses that should and do result in immediate termination. What if the foreman caught a guy stealing and you were on vacation? Lying? Destroying company property? Smoking pot on the job? Drinking on the job?

    What you need to do is train your foreman so they know the proper procedure for terminating an employee. And then give them the authority and responsibility they should have. Might not happen in a month or 6 or it might take a year, but to say no foreman should ever fire someone is ridiculous. Or to say a lawsuit will follow.
     
  10. grandview (2006)

    grandview (2006) LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,466


    Does the employee handbook give the foreman the right to fire someone? Do you have a human resource dept that this person can go to first to find out if it personal or professional firing?
     

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