Glufosinate Ammonium - Mix Ratios

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by EdTLawn, Jul 12, 2007.

  1. EdTLawn

    EdTLawn LawnSite Member
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  2. TurfProSTL

    TurfProSTL LawnSite Senior Member
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    First off, its g/L

    The concentrate is 6 times more potent than the RTU

    So 60 ml of the concentrate in 1 L of water would give you the same percentage of active ingredient as the RTU
     
  3. EdTLawn

    EdTLawn LawnSite Member
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    The math doesn't work out ! it would still work out to a mix ratio of 167ml of concentrate to liter of water to get the same comcentrations as the RTU stuff of 10g/L
     
  4. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
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    This is not Roundup. Nor glyfosate. It is a quick-acting burn down product. The retail product is called "Finale" around here. Works quickly, but not as good for anything with deep roots.

    The concentrate is 6 times stronger than the Ready-to-Use. Take one ounce of concentrate--add 5 ounces of water--and you are at the ready-to-use concentration.
     
  5. TurfProSTL

    TurfProSTL LawnSite Senior Member
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    10/1 = 60/6

    Guess thats right.....
     
  6. EdTLawn

    EdTLawn LawnSite Member
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    Its not that simple if you look at the overall contents based on their labelling

    Its more like this 10g/1L 10g/1000ML = 0.01g/ML and 60g/L 60g/1000ML = 0.06g/ML

    So if the RTU contains 10g/L then to get the same amount in the concentrate mix, you would need to add 0.06 x 167ML = 10.02g

    Which is roughly makes 6 bottles of the stuff if I use 167ml/L, but the instructions on the concentrate tells you to mix ONLY 33-66ml/L which is 2.5 -3 times less than the RTU stuff
     
  7. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    EdT

    Before I make any statement about this, I would like to see a label for both that lists the percentages of the AI in each package. I don't know this product or do I care to, But I feel my math is good enough to get a correct answer. The given weight of the AI is not the best way to do the correct math.
     
  8. EdTLawn

    EdTLawn LawnSite Member
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    Its mentioned on their site and on the label is identical.

    http://www.cil.nu-gro.com/products/product_e.php?prodID=69&category=4

    http://www.cil.nu-gro.com/products/product_e.php?prodID=68&category=4
     
  9. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
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    Ric's right.........If you're talkin' Roundup Pro, Clean Cut, or Prosecutor: 4 - six ounces per gallon in a spot sprayer -- 5 quarts per acre when tank mixed. But even then, you have to know what weeds you're going after cuz the rate changes. Read the label for sure -- then mix it slightly stronger and add in spreader/sticker. We like UAP's LI-700 -- it's a spreader/sticker/acidifyer/penetrant. It has a really bad stench, but boy does it work! p.s. We also mix in ester broadleaf herbicide (Chaser) which shows results within 48 hours.
     
  10. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    EdT

    I don't believe you are understanding what I am asking For. Let me give you an example from Roundup Concentrate and Roundup Ready spray.

    Roundup concentrate is Glyphosate.........41%

    Roundup Ready to spray is Glyphosate.......1.5%

    Now without explaining the math 1.5% Roundup ready spray is equal to adding 2 oz of 41% to a gallon of water. By knowing the Percentages of each product I can tell you the mix rate and the Number of gallons you will get from a bottle of concentrate. In the case of Roundup you can get 64 gallons of 1.5% weed killer from each gallon of 41% Roundup.
     

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